I mean Sam has a better comp % than Allen, better yds per game, better td/ per game identical rating and is only 2 tds behind despite playing in 3 less games. Other than that though yes, Allen is better in virtually every measurement used to evaluate a qb.
Darnold has 9 touchdowns less, not 2. A touchdown is 6 points whether you complete a pass to the end zone or run it in.
Allen has played 3 more games than Sam. And record for qbs is the stupidest stat in sports. In the ultimate team game the qb gets the record? So we are pinning the loss on brees a few weeks ago when he hung 5 tds v San Francisco? It was Peyton Manning’s fault we drove the field for a game winning field goal in the playoffs after he went down and scored with a 1:30 left?
no Allen does not have more turnovers. Allen has 13 turnovers. 9 interceptions and 4 fumbles lost Darnold has 15 turnovers. 12 interceptions and 3 fumbles lost
Man you don’t even need statistics to tell Darnold is a more talented QB than Allen. Simply watching the games is enough. Darnold is asked to carry them to wins, Allen is asked to not lose them the game. He reminds of Mark Sanchez on the 2010 Jets, but Allen is more athletic.
Ok, read the wrong line. My point that he does not lead Sam in all qb measurable categories still stands.
And it’s a bad one. And we haven’t even considered how the teams around them affect them. One is asked to carry a bad team the other is asked to manage a decent one.
not all, just 1. I believe completion percentage is the only place Darnold has an edge. I guess the question is how much do you value completion percentage?
Allen to me is kapernickesque. Good, good run game and you can win with his one read and run type game. Not sure how long that will play. Qbs that can’t get over the 60% mark don’t last . Accuracy and reading d are the 2 most important parts of being a qb.
Actually it's just not a reliably measurable way to determine how good a QB is, but it IS one way to determine the great, clutch QBs.
Allen is a product of what is around him. His o line is so much better its unbelievable, his D sets him up well because it is one of the best out there, his receivers take the top of so he doesn't have to be as accurate in the middle (which he is bad at), and Singletary also takes pressure off of him. Darnold is the better but on a worse team.
I know what you are saying about 1 read QBs is true I just think you have Allen categorized wrong. He is definitely not a one read and go QB. Maybe he was last year but from what I've seen this year I think that's wrong
you watch Allen in the Cowboys game, he's got the ball at his own 1 yard line, 3rd and 10. He looks left and it was some bullshit safe call from his OC to run a receiver 4 yards short of the 1st down marker right in front of him. Darnold probably completes that pass and the Jets punt. How many times have we seen that this year? Everyone bitches. Damn Adam Gase calling such conservative plays Allen chooses another read, takes his eyes across the field to Beasley and steps up in the pocket to launch a missile for a 1st down. His defense obviously didn't set up him well. The coaches tried to call a conservative play. So much for the guys around him, they got him stuck in that position, 3rd and 10 from his own 1. The game manager makes the safe throw, Allen doesnt look I hate the Bills as much as anyone. This guy is good though
Josh Allen is the definition of fool’s gold. He’ll make some plays because he’s got an OL and WRs that can get open (and a competent coach) plus he’s willing to take risks which don’t always pan out. But let’s get real here. He’s played football for 4 seasons and this is the first time he’ll have a completion percentage above 56 (and it won’t be 60). The Bills have the 2nd ranked scoring D and the 24th ranked scoring O. I think it’s pretty obvious what got them to 10-5 and the playoffs. If you put Sam on the Bills I bet those offensive numbers improve. Allen is what he is: a huge arm with legs. It’ll work for a while but he’ll limit what a team can do and will need a perfect storm to win a title. I think praise should be heaped on the Bills front office and coaching staff for building an Allen-proof team. Edit: they are also two missed field goals away from being 8-7 right now.
Beasley is one of his main targets every time. Its a good play. Sam has a couple good plays a game usually. But this is one of 10 intermediate throws he has completed this season. His accuracy is not that good and once he get a bit older hsi running will be bad. He's a not so accurate big Ben with no where near the talent. Once he has to be a pocket passer he's doomed.
Josh Allen reminds me a lot of Ron Jaworski, the Polish Rifle, who took the Eagles to the SB (they lost to the Raiders). I think Allen's ability to make big plays can, under the right circumstances, allow him to even win a SB, but the odds are against it. If Darnold had a better HC/OC, and better surrounding talent, he'd be a much better bet to win a SB, but given his situation, the odds are against that too.
Hey all he has to do to win a Super Bowl in Gase’s offense is be one of the three greatest QBs of all time and the Jets just have to draft an elite receiver. Don’t be so negative.
