Jets vs NYG Week 10 2019 - Studs and Duds

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    put down the stat book one time in your life. you'll make a lot more sense. i guess we should cut bell, he hasn't been productive.

    bell is a top 3 RB in the NFL
    he averages 129 YPG in his career in pitt and 11.5 TDs per season
    with the jets he is averaging 80 YPG and on pace for 5 TDs

    so does bell suck now? or are their other factors
     
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  2. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    He can't throw the damned ball to himself?

    If you have a head coach that is seemingly unwilling to air it out then what can Robby Anderson do to up his production?

    If he is running the routes given to him and the ball is constantly checked down to Crowder and Bell how is this RA's fault?

    This is a guy who not so long ago was robbed of two 1000 yard seasons, one by a QB going down and yet again a HC coach unwilling to utilise him until he was desperate to do so.

    Undoubtedly this season is going to be his worst but if Gase won't let Sam bomb then Robby is going to be a little pointless and not playing to his strengths but then that seems nothing new for Gase, it is like that 97 yarder didn't happen.

    Nobody bar one guy is saying Anderson is a W1, he could become a W2 if he learned more routes but really he is a W3 who is very good at tracking the long ball and contrary to popular opinion he does have a decent pair of hands.

    I still think folk don't like him for his off field antics that really were unproven, a wrestle with a fat racist cop and I am not having he said I'll nut in your wife's eye to another copper as they would have found a way to shoot or beat the shit out of him at the very least, both incidents smack of cops trying to cover their arses.

    Properly utilised and for the correct wage Anderson is a worthwhile WR for us or somebody else
     
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  3. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    Hard to know? Bell was out of football for a year and running backs often decline very fast. He's a very patient running back which isn't helping him in this O.
     
  4. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    The bold part highlights what I think is a huge problem in all of sports, but especially in football, where judgments are made about a player's ability/potential based primarily off of physical measurements. While these might a good starting point for evaluation, too many player evaluators rely on these, and ignore the less tangible, harder to measure attributes that are often the difference between success and failure. How many "less than perfect physical specimens" become stars because they were able to overcome their physical "shortcomings" or maximize other aspects of their game?

    Robbie has an exceptional physical gift, but he also has some physical shortcomings for which he doesn't seem to have tried to improve. The question then becomes: are these shortcomings something he can't overcome, or does it reveal some character weakness, like a lack of motivation to overcome these?

    And how many other "busts" can we list from the Jets alone whose physical measurements seem to guarantee success, but they failed?

    I think the teams that repeatedly succeed have figured this out and draft/sign players that have that strong character, even when there are more physically gifted players available.
     
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  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Did you guys watch last nights game? Deebo Samuel showed you how a thin, speed receiver should play. and forget about D.K. Metcalf, that guy's a beast. Robby will never be anything like him, holy hell I'd kill to have that

    These guys weren't number 1 overall draft picks. They aren't unattainable. guys like them get drafted mid rounds every year. Anderson will be replaced by players like them
     
  6. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting for G&C to tell us which job he has on the Jets org chart.:rolleyes:
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    janitor maybe
     
  8. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Not for nothing, Metcalf should have been a 1st round pick. He had one of the worst shuttle / cone times anyone has ever seen. It was actually worse than Brady. These guys had to think he couldn't move laterally at all and was probably horrible out of his routes. I can't believe that guy fell to where he did. I was screaming for us to take him in round 2 on draft night.
     
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  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    again proving my point :)
     
  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    yeah would have loved metcalf. no idea how like 6 Wrs went before him and he fell to the last pick of the 2nd round. if only we had a 2nd rounder. mac was trying to move into the 2nd round according to rumors but no idea who he planned on taking. I don't care about cone times lol. he's a physical monster who wins jumps balls and gets YAC. not every WR is gonna be perfect. guys who are 6-5 and rund 4.3 40s with excellent hands and route running and agility are very few and far between. all plays have their good and bad
     
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  11. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    After all the moaning about Anderson's hands and you would love a beast like that who has already dropped 3 catches and has just over a 1 in 3 contested catch completion, which for a guy built like Adonis isn't that impressive.

    Also this

    For a huge strong guy and after what was said about Robby not securing that pass at the weekend, it is interesting viewing, no?
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    oh yeah, he fumbled once in that game lol. he caught the ball, ran like 20 yards, took on multiple tacklers, almost ran through all of them before fumbling at the goal line

    good point. I'd rather have Robby Anderson and his 1 catch for 11 yards before dipping out of bounds to avoid contact
     
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  13. Acad23

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    Robbie Anderson is the Daryl Revis of wide receivers.

    That's why they won't throw his way.


    It's a hidden production thing...:confused:
     
  14. CotcheryFan

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    Is Daryl related to Darrelle?
     
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    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Phone auto correct...

    Now I can't fix it because you quoted it...:mad:

    Anyway... I thought you were changing your username?
     
  16. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019...ets?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019111005

    57 seconds in, he caught a ball from a scrambling and nearly sacked Darnold, the second he caught it a guy was on his back and another coming in from the other direction, so he didn't duck out to avoid contact, this is what makes you look like you just make shit up to suit your own narrative.

    As for the fumble, everybody knows if that happened to Anderson you would be on here like a little ball of fury calling him weak and the worst WR in Jets history and whatever else your puerile mind can come up with next.

    Your sarcasm was also piss poor btw.
     
  17. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    that would not EVER happen to Anderson hahaha. He would actually have to break a couple tackles first. we both know that will never happen
     
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  18. CotcheryFan

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    I had a feeling it was a typo, so I asked jokingly.

    As for my handle, if I change it to another Jets player who then gets hurt, I'll never hear the end of it here. I can't change it to a player on another team, hoping that player gets hurt. I'll stick with Herndon for now. I think he can have a big year in 2020.
     
  19. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Again cherry-picking a snippet for your own purpose.

    The fumble narrative was more to imply what you said about Anderson "Fumbling" that pass at the weekend, as for the 1-11 shit dig, again if your HC won't throw the ball long then as a speedster that thrives on balls over the top then you can do nothing about that, I mean you just aren't that thick to not understand this point.

    Play to a man's strengths, of course, your salient point about breaking tackles is true but then again he isn't designed to pound his way through a defence is he and if you or the HC expects this from him then you are as dumb as each other.

    2017 shows exactly what Robby Anderson can do, and once again just to clarify, I like the guy but no I don't think he is a number 1 WR but a very good W3/speedster that gives you an out option and keeps the defence honest.

    People will argue with you all night long and others if you just keep calling him worse than shit, which he blatantly isn't.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

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    the guy who brings into the discussion ONE play wants to accuse me of cherry-picking.
     
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