Jets vs NYG Week 10 2019 - Studs and Duds

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem too. He's so small and frail and has no frame to even pack muscle and pounds on to improve his strength at the point of contact against defensive backs. So one would think he would work like hell on his route running. The rounded off double move against Gilmore was the PERFECT example of how he hasn't improved his routes since entering the league.

    If he improved his routes, he'd create more separation and be able to make contested catches easier. He's fast as hell, but he's always going to struggle on contested catches because he gets rag dolled. If he can't fall right to the floor or keep running before contact, then he's not going to catch the pass. He also doesn't work back to the ball whatsoever and stops running on a lot of deep routes.
     
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  2. Biggs

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    I don't hate Robbie, I hate his production and how lazy he is. He's not a rookie, he can at least try and do all the things a professional NFL WR need to do. You think Crowder could get away with playing like Robbie?
     
  3. Acad23

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    What's Herdon's grade?

    I only saw one catch.
     
  4. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    to be fair he caught a nice ball on a play where Darnold broke out of the pocket only to be called back because Alex Lewis had to hold back two guys
     
  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i get hating his production. it's obviously not there and we expect more from him then a big game here and there and nothing in between. with that said bell's production sucks. he's a top 3 paid RB in the NFL. but we aren't mad at bell because we know it's the o-line. I'm just saying robbys numbers would be better if not for other issues. Sams missed him on at least 4-5 deep TDs this year. and he missed smith. his deep ball hasn't looked great this year. the o-line sucks so there is no time for robby to go deep either. I've never heard anyone call him lazy. Crowder is different. a different type of WR and plus robbie on the field opens up crowder more. If sam hit robby on those balls he'd be on pace for 1k yards and 10 TDs not too shabby. he also played for a month with a QB who couldn't throw the ball over 40 yards which hurt as well. I think robby gets a raw deal here TBH. We all know he's not hopkins or evans but doesn't mean he isn't playing well. he's also the 13th highest paid player on the team. roberts is making twice of what robby is to suck. henry anderson is making 3 times robby and not doing much this year and being outplayed by an UDFA rookie and a 6th round pick form last year (foley and phillips) winters is making 6.5 mil to suck. I just don't get the hate really. if robby was on KC or GB his numbers would be much better
     
  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    while 2 other lineman did nothing lol
     
  7. Biggs

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    If Robbie was on KC he would have been cut or traded. He isn't good enough to be on their opening day roster.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Why do you care whether the hate is fair or not?

    Aaron Rodgers would never put up with his lazy route running or giving up on plays, for the record.

    The thing with Anderson is that he is what he is. He's a replaceable speed threat that doesn't offer you a ton more. You can probably get him on some crossing routes here and there but he's not a big chain mover, nor is he a dynamic YAC player.

    He's Devery Henderson, Justin McCareins, a poor man's Ted Ginn. And that's OK, he's just rendered useless if he's not doing the one thing he's good at.
     
  9. mrjet80

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    This is all true - however - being that it's all true this would make re-signing him possible as he shouldn't break the bank but would look much better as a 3rd option going downfield rather than the #1 WR some portray him to be. He isn't that.

    I wouldn't mind seeing him re-signed for his value which should be a very modest deal.....not a worthless player - he almost had 1000 yards in 2017 I think and Darnold seems to like him. Just not a #1 option.
     
  10. nyjetsmets89

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    exactly lol it was pitiful to watch. This whole line needs to be turned over. Lewis and Edoga look like they’ll stick around though
     
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  11. mrjet80

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    Edoga has a shot at RT next season. Lewis in play for one of the guard spots or could be the 6th guy - good, solid depth.

    This off season will be fascinating to see exactly how JD rebuilds this OL. They need at the least a LT, C, G, and overall better depth.
     
  12. GasedAndConfused

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    that's just nonsense. i guess we'll see in free agency
    I care because it's annoying to see fans talk nonsense about our players. like IDK who you consider is good lets say sam. If i went around posting sam sucks, has a weak arm, is a 1 read QB, is a statue in the pocket and can't move. Wouldn't you be like OMG shut up with that nonsense. none of it is true.

    yeah lewis is looking like a solid pick up. i hope we keep him. worse case as good depth but likely a starter. edoga seems to have the RT spot locked down as well. that means we'll ned a new RG, C, and LT. hoping we get thomas for LT in the draft and a C like hansen (tyler will be gone before we pick in the 2nd) and we can sign a RG in free agency. instant make over.
     
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  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Relative to what most NFL teams have as their 1 + 2 Robbie Anderson does suck. I think it pisses fans off more because he makes a call when the ball is in the air a lot of times that he can't catch it so he stops running. And his route running DOES suck.

    It'll be interesting to see what he gets. I'm not opposed to him staying on a good value deal either. I just wouldn't want them to overpay for him because the receiver market this year sucks and we have no choice. The receiver draft is looooaded. Free agency is not.
     
  14. GasedAndConfused

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    jamaal adams sucks. he's slow and can't cover or blitz. he gets faked out on PA too many times too. we should cut him and draft another safety.
     
  15. mrjet80

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    I think JD should double dip in regards to CB, OL, EDGE, and WR between FA and the draft. or at least attempt to. As far as OL maybe sign a starting guard and get OT and C in the draft....sign a starting CB then go draft one early, etc.

    Everybody is talking about Adams and his contract status but one overlooked guy the Jets really need to re-sign is Jenkins. A decent OLB who shouldn't be overly expensive and would thrive with a pass rusher on the other side....
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Are you related to Robbie Anderson or something? There's a lot of annoying bullshit that fans spew but your loyalty to him is the annoying part. Call him for what he is. A guy that'd be lucky to be a 1,000 yard receiver. He's OK.
     
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    Darrius Slayton was actually a good guy to watch yesterday for this argument. Slayton is a speed guy (4.3 like Anderson) and he was not known for his route running coming into the NFL. Which is why he fell to the 5th round.

    Slayton as a rookie is already far, far better of a route runner than Anderson.

    at this point with Robby Anderson, you just have to think that he doesn't want to become a better player. I mean how else can you explain it. Route running is something you can learn. this is Anderson's 4th year in the NFL
     
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  18. Acad23

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    Crowder is the only receiver we have that's worth a damn.

    He gets open, runs crisp routes and goes over the middle.

    Crowder may be the best free agent pickup we made.

    Robby should be ashamed...he is sloppy & lazy in his route running.

    He should study Hines Wards high light reel... :mad:
     
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    Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Mecola Hardman who they drafted in round 2 who is better now than Robbie has ever been and Demarcus Robinson. Robbie might get touches ahead of Robinson if Reid didn't run him off the team because of his route running. He's at best a situational WR on KC. He would never be in the starting lineup.
     
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    He's also in his contract year with a new HC. If he's not busting it in all phases now when will he?
     
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