haha as I posted my cmoment, I knew this would be your follow up...my bad....no chance they fire Gase even if we lose to the disgusting Dolphins. I think Gase would have to beat up CJ's suster to get fired this year
For awhile I thought he might. After yesterday I don't think he is and next year this will be a completely different team. I don't disagree that certain players should be traded for draft picks etc. It really hasn't been working. My bigger issue is that Gase will be the one coaching the team going forward and I don't think he is the man to coach the new players and he'll be here at least another year but probably longer. My only hope is that Douglas and the Johnson's see his numbers and coaching stats and see how bad he is and move on from that. That being said I think he's here. Ugh. It might just put me over the edge next year to not want to watch the team.
First bold:this is management 101, you pull the individual aside a counsel him in private. Second bold: Is he doing that in private???? Who knows what goes on behind close doors, I hope he telling him that needs to step up his coaching.
Not to mention the media market the Jets are in, they would want nothing more. Imagine how they would exasperate the whole situation.
We're talking about beating a dolphins team that has essentially gotten rid of everyone and now has 14 picks in the upcoming draft (obvious tank mode), the bengals who just benched Andy Dalton, and the Redskins who fired Gruden, and have Case Keenum at QB. Why exactly would wins against 3 of the worst teams in the league make me feel better about Gase? Also, Darnold has played like shit, but the o-line has some of the same players it did last season. Why do we look like we can't block this season? How can a coach say that when we have more blockers, we give up more pressure? Gase is not head coach material. He has shown that in Miami and here.
actually the offensive line has 3 new (shittier) starters from what was a bottom barrel line to begin with. perhaps they can't block because they aren't any good at football. chuma edoga, Alex lewis, jonnnathn Harrison, Brian winters and Brandon Shell are the starters and you are wondering why they can't block. seriously? none of them would start on any other team and yeah, the fish and the bengals and redskins are terrible. But you are gonna bash Gase no matter what happens in those games. He doesn't make the schedule though. what are the Jets to do? "hey NFL, can we play someone else so people believe it if/when we show improvement?"
In fairness to Douglas, he was widely viewed as one of the top GM candidates on the market and had a lot of buzz going for him. He doesn’t owe this job to Gase or anyone, as he’d be a GM in 2020 regardless. When Gase gets fired he can use the same line he’s giving Jamal Adams now, business is business. We have to look at all angles. I just hope that conversation happens this offseason and 2020 comes with a new hand picked HC.
Finally got to watch it. I think JD did a good job. He doesn't seem like someone used to the camera though. Lots of "umm". not a big deal though and I think he handled all the questions well
Yes, Gase was the catalyst, but I think Douglas gained a lot of power during the interviewing/negotiating process when he turned the job down, and Chris Johnson had to go back to him, upping his offer and giving Douglas the things he wanted. At that point, I think Douglas gained power on his own. I don't know how good a friends they are, and yes, in normal circumstances it would seem that it would buy Gase at least 2 seasons. Things are a little different in our situation. For one thing, Gase's handling of Sam and the offense has been pretty awful. He has failed to make adjustments to the blocking scheme, to play design and play calling, and has seemed to have no answer in games when things don't go well. Instead of gathering his players on the sideline and coaching ala Beliechik and others, he stands there like Bowles. In this situation we also have one of the owners talking to a fan saying, "I hope the team shows up this week." That's not a good look, especially with the team's dismal play over the last 3 seasons, and it having been 9 seasons since they've made the playoffs, and in most of those, they weren't even in the same area code. As far as we know the old org chart still exists with both Gase and Douglas reporting to Chris Johnson. If so, whether Gase stays or goes could be entirely out of Douglas' hands. Chris may ask for some feedback from Douglas, but may choose to ignore it. He has to think about the fanbase, and I have to think that it's getting pretty close to revolting and going with billboards and airplanes as well as trashing the team in the media and on social media. For the most part, Gase's offense hasn't looked like a professional offense. It's been an embarrassment. They haven't even been competitive against the better teams they've played. Sam has regressed rather than progressed. What has Gase done to try to improve things? AFAIK, not one thing. With the easy schedule the Jets have the rest of the way, if the Jets finish with 5 wins or less, all of the above could lead to Gase being one and done, and imo should.
As I was reading Falco's post, I thought of this as a possibility as well. Either could be true. I'm hoping that Falco is right, because I really want to see Gase gone, and especially don't want to see Gase back because he helped Douglas get the GM job or because they are friends.
Exactly. If Chris Johnson has any understanding of football at all, he won't be happy with Jets wins against other bad teams, especially if they aren't convincing wins or we struggle to win late. With the Jets' schedule many here and a few in the media were thinking the Jets could be a competitive team and win 7+ games. If the Jets finish with 4 or 5 wins, all against bad teams (except the Cowboys) and Darnold is still struggling/regressing, I can't imagine Chris being impressed or even happy with the season's results. As you point out, the Jets' OL basically has the same players as last season, so they should be around the same as last year, but they're much worse, although with Beacham hurt, that does alter things. Still Carpenter wasn't good and Winters struggled playing injured most of the season. The center position was a black hole last season with errant snaps and shoddy blocking, and the OL was still better than this season. Shell has totally lost it. Kalil should have stayed retired. Harrison must really be awful or Gase just isn't giving him a chance. IMO it has to be Gase's and Pollack's blocking scheme/techniques. They need to be tweaked or thrown out the window before Sam gets ruined or injured (or both).
Until he proves he can upgrade the talent what he says means nothing. 2 to 3 years were either winning both the off season and games or we aren’t. Mac could have drafted Watson or Mahomes. Adams is a good player he isn’t Lawrence Taylor. Nice piece on a good team almost useless on this trash team. Building a team like playing the game is a competition. Until Douglas has a better offseason than a majority of NFL teams his press conference decorum means shit. We may be in the running for the first pick. Darnold should have to prove he’s the guy.
Yes there are 3 new starters. Hopefully, Beacham will be back soon, and that will be down to 2. Winters played last season injured and should be better this season. Carpenter was abysmal last season and Osemele/Lewis should be better. As bad as Kalil has been, I haven't seen or heard about a bunch of errant snaps. Lewis is their best OL at the moment. He did start in Baltimore, and outside of maybe Beacham, he is better than any of the Jets' other OL. So yes, the personnel is a big part of the problem, but I also think it's the blocking scheme of Gase and Pollack, and maybe the coaching of Pollack. In the earlier games, it wasn't any of the players you listed who missed blocks or blew assignments when free rushers were crushing Sam. It was the scheme that left them unaccounted for. I don't know if it's accurate or not, but one poster posted a quote or an article that said that's part of Gase's philosophy to force the QB to get the ball out of hands quicker. That's insanity! You don't think the Jets can show signs of improvement even against the Bengals and Redskins? How about if they play four solid quarters, protect Sam, give him time to read the field and complete throws? How about they look like a professional offense and put points on the board in bunches. IMO there will be a big difference between eking a win out late, and dominating from start to finish (or at least lead most, if not all of the game). Gase can make some changes in his alignments using more max protect or 2 TE alignments. He can have Sam roll out more and use bootlegs. He can properly utilize Bell's talents. IMO there are a lot of ways in which Gase can show that he is trying different things, making adjustments, and in which the team can show that they are improving. If none of that happens and they struggle to win only 4-5 games or less, then I don't see how there's any way that Gase can stay.
I think that's a good assessment. And elite players at certain positions elevate the defense to be better than they are. Elite inside linebackers and edge rushers can do so. "Elite" strong safeties on bad teams make a lot of tackles 7 yards down the field.
