The Darnold Decision

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by FrontOfficeFanatic, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,311
    Likes Received:
    6,405
    There is a difference between being great one week and being bad the next week vs being great one week and completely melting down the next week.

    What we saw tonight was an extreme lack of mental toughness and every skill he had went out the window. Its a concern.
     
    HomeoftheJets likes this.
  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    9,483
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Yeah. Like David Carr. His fundamentals were atrocious. Starting with that happy feet that he got.
     
  3. regan62072

    regan62072 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2017
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    328
    No it’s not, it’s called a bad game. See my bipolar fan base post, it’s aimed right at you and the rest of the idiots in this thread,


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  4. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,902
    Likes Received:
    4,298
    [/QUOTE]
    Fans aren't bipolar, fans react to the way their team plays. You have it ass backwards.
     
  5. regan62072

    regan62072 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2017
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    328

    Fans aren't bipolar, fans react to the way their team plays. You have it ass backwards.[/QUOTE]

    My pervious post goes for you too.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  6. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,902
    Likes Received:
    4,298
    Sam hasn't had enough consistently good games to offset his historically bad games to this point. I think it's insane to talk about replacing him at this point but it's not insane to say that tonights game was not just a bad game it was a complete turd.
     
    SOJAZ, ouchy, Pepsiguy5 and 1 other person like this.
  7. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,311
    Likes Received:
    6,405
    All I said was its a concern.

    If you don't think we have a serious concern with our QB right now you are in denial. He played worse against the Pats than Luke Falk...and it was Falks first NFL start.
     
  8. regan62072

    regan62072 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2017
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    328
    Serious concern? Wow. Just wow.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  9. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,902
    Likes Received:
    4,298
    Sam wasn't great last week. He was very good. We were fortunate that his two bad throws in key spots didn't kill the good he did. It's not hyperbole to say Sam was awful tonight and looked like he didn't belong on the field. It is hyperbole to say Sam was great last week. He was good not great.
     
    SOJAZ and NCJetsfan like this.
  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,849
    Likes Received:
    9,189
    You're not concerned? Really?
     
    KurtTheJetsFan likes this.
  11. regan62072

    regan62072 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2017
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    328
    After 1 bad game? No.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  12. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,849
    Likes Received:
    9,189
    One bad game? How many years were you in the coma?
     
    KurtTheJetsFan likes this.
  13. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2003
    Messages:
    10,243
    Likes Received:
    2,458
    Can't make a judgement on him with Gase and co. as his coaches.

    Let's face it Gase's offense doesn't make anyone look good.
     
    SOJAZ likes this.
  14. JoeWalton

    JoeWalton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    4,813
    Likes Received:
    2,331
    Darnold ne
    You nailed it. He does not have appear to have neither the physical, nor mental confidence to attack the defense, regardless of what type of OL he has in front of him. There were several occasions where he had time to throw or run and was still indecisive and off balance. His body language is saying that he is throwing from a defensive posture and definitely worrying about taking a beating.

    When a defense as good as the Pats senses that, they will smell blood and devour the opposing QB. It is virtually impossible to succeed playing scared at the NFL QB position. The Jets did the kid a disservice by handing him the keys to the kingdom without an effective, if not serviceable OL and little talent at the WR position. Even franchise QBs are only as good as the team which surrounds them.
     
    SOJAZ likes this.
  15. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2003
    Messages:
    10,243
    Likes Received:
    2,458
    The most depressing thing to me is when I think back to when he was drafted the joy I felt then when I look at what this season has turned out to be.

    When Falk was in there, Darnold's game last night.

    Seasons like this, QB performances like this were supposed to be a thing of the past once Darnold was selected.

    Yet here we are again.

    It's foolish to think that drafting another QB willl make everything alright.

    The Jets problems run much deeper than that.

    I wish I had the answers.
     
  16. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,022
    Likes Received:
    3,314
    Anyone who isn't at least slightly concerned after that is as delusional as those already ready to give up on Darnold. It is just one terrible game for sure, and offset to some extent by a very good game last week, but the signs there were very concerning. It is way too soon to be raising the white flag and talking about drafting a replacement, but it isn't too soon to say that there were some very worrying signs. It might just prove to be a one-off, I hope so, and a consequence of a poor O line, a good D and great HC, or it might not. Hopefully Darnold will realise that it wasn't the OL that caused those picks, they were bad decisions and bad throws and come back stronger.
     
  17. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    1,456
    Likes Received:
    801
    You don’t go out, buy a Ferrari and park it on the streets; you protect it. By the same token, Darnold needs to have a phantom diagnosis that lands him on IR. So does Bell. No reason for them to play this season. The O line is nonexistent. The coaching is pathetic. Just end the season without damaging the long term investments, please.

    Also, fuck the Johnsons Bros for hiring Gase. What was he thinking? Also, will it be weird when the GM he vouched for has to fire him? And, again, fuck the Johnsons.
     
    SOJAZ likes this.
  18. fansince90

    fansince90 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    355
    I always tell players...i can coach plays, show you what to do and how to do it, but i cant coach heart. Gase knows he was shook when he had the talk with him on the sideline. Darnold said he was seeing Gholston!!! Lol...its over! Even if we replace the coach qb's can't lose their composure...the qb gotta be a tough individual...maybe he's worried about his spleen? Usc is not QB U!
     
  19. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    6,100
    Likes Received:
    2,222
    They beat a bully team last week when Sam was barely touched the whole game. This week Sam was the bully that went down after the first punch. Maybe believing his own press too after he was AFC Offensive player of the week.

    If anything it concerns me more that he folded so quickly after such a good game last week, it's not like he's been getting pressured five or six weeks straight where you could say the ghosts comment was a cumulative effect.
     
    #99 NYJFan10, Oct 22, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2019
  20. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    6,100
    Likes Received:
    2,222
    It's not even just that he was bad, it's that he lost his poise THAT quickly to the point where he was seeing ghosts after less than a half. You can't be that mentally fragile and play in the NFL.
     

Share This Page