Beacham played pretty well last year. He hasn't been this year. Sam and McCown were much better than Siemian and Falk, and the offense starts with the QB. The blocking scheme was better.
Imo? Power and Control were the dominant reasons Mike McCarthy recognized how absolutely inept the Owners and Management have been running the Francise for decades He had the stones to demand some final say in the decision making over the Dumb and Dumber Johnsons Result? Chris J gets on the phone with Payton M to discuss some insurance...haha jus kidding...and he gives Adam Gase the offensive genius in hiding a Thumbs Up to manage Sam's development >>>Johnsons see Gase as another non threatening HC who just might appease the fans and win a few games , help fill the seats with the suckers Plus, they chose to hire him and ignore his much publicized personality issues with players and the Dolphins Owner Ask yourself are the Johnsons interested a $ stream from this investment , one that tripled from 600 million purchase price to a couple of Billion or do they honestly want the Team to win a SB???? FTMR they put NO pressure on HC or demand any results ...so the Coal never morphs into a Diamond ..just stays a piece of soot!!!
My theory is MAC sold CJ on the idea that the reason his picks sucked is not only bc of Bowles but also his zillion or so lousy assistant coaches. In order to nail home this endeavor & gain further power MAC needed to prioritize influence over the Coaching hire by either A. A HC able to assemble a reputable staff under their own watch or B.Have a coach willing to allow the FO(IE MAC) to have input on the staff
That's kinda funny Kurt ..because Gase managed to get Macs ass fired ...lmao..so Mac gets in on hiring AG and then Gase turns around and convinces J and J to fire him ..wow If the Fuller Brush man called Chris and Woody and gave some input about the team they might not do it but they would listen..smh Just clueless ownership>>>biggest problem
Is it that surprising that the guy who thought Hackenberg could be a good QB also thought Gase could be a yes man?
The question wasn't about why were Arians, Kingsbury, McCarthy or a Harbaugh not hired, it was why was Gase hired. Seven paragraphs in your response and only part of one attempts to list Gase's accomplishments: "Gase has come through the ranks. He has lots of experience as a successful OC and was hired as a HC at a very young age. He took a crappy Miami team to the playoffs in his first year." That is the definition of "damning with faint praise."
Arians and Harbaugh didn't even consider the Jets. Not even a brief consideration. Kingsbury turned the Jets down too
You want me to lick Gases balls, ain't going to happen. I see you asked the question but it was obviously rhetorical. I didn't answer your question, notice I didn't quote you. I gave my opinion unsolicited. I understand your position on Gase is pretty much he sucks, we shouldn't have hired him. Hiring qualified people isn't easy. NFL HC material is extremely limited. There are probably 10 Excellent NFL HC at any one time and 32 openings. The Gase hiring in my opinion made perfect sense based on availability of good candidates. My preferred candidate would have been Arians. He wasn't available. Gase would have been in the mix with lots of inexperienced candidates if we wanted Mac to have more power in the organization. That was obviously a none starter with the Johnsons. There is nuance in hiring. One of them is who's available. My praise of Gase wasn't faint at all. That's your opinion of Gase not mine. I think at the time it made perfect sense and based on 3 games nothing has changed my opinion. We won't know if this is a good or bad hire for at least 2 seasons. In my opinion which I know you don't agree with.
My take is Mac wanted to hire Matt Rhule. Mac tried to consolidate his power base and Rhule balked at not being able to have full control over his staff. I believe Gase was the last thing Mac wanted.
I don't believe Kingsbury turned down the Jets. Arians wasn't available. Kingsbury would have been a terrible hire to develop Sam. He's probably going to set back Murray from learning how to run an NFL O by two or three years.
Hard to know how Rhule would have worked out. I think he has great potential. I also think the Jets would be 0 and 3 under him, Mac would still be the GM and the board would be going bonkers to fire him.
Again, it's not the record, it's HOW we've gotten to this record: Gase being Gase. If he doesn't change, then things won't get better - not in the sense of becoming a SB contending team. Sure, having Sam eventually return, and the other starters, will make an improvement probably, but as long as Gase is being Gase, they won't turn into consistent winners. This was the exact same problem with Bowles. So we've gone from hiring a good DC to be HC, to hiring a good (benefit of the doubt given) OC as HC. What we need to do is hire a good HC. The problem of course is that the people doing the hiring don't know what makes a good HC.
One of the problems is the amount of good NFL HC and by good let's admit guys who can put up 9 to 14 wins consistently. They're only about 4 of those guys in the world at the moment. They have to be developed. As you admit you don't have the patience to develop them because of 50 years of frustration. I'm all for hiring this mythical human being. When you identify him let me know and I'll get on the fire Gase bandwagon.
You want to wait for 2 or 3 more years to make sure that Gase isn't the right HC, that's up to you, but again, I don't agree. I don't know right now who would be that "mythical" HC you talk about, but I'm pretty sure there are better candidates out there. The problem of course is that the guys hiring can't find their asses with either hand, so finding a good HC is almost impossible for them. Maybe if they let Douglas do the search they might get lucky.
I suspect Douglas would fire Gase or let the Johnsons know they should fire Gase if that's what he thinks. What GM would stake his future on a HC he didn't believe in?
