Seahawks trade for Clowney.

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  1. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    He was a scout in Baltimore, that's definitely his background, in Philly he was VP of player personal. That deals with pro scouting and FA and recruiting FAs. He was reportedly a big part of the Foles acquisition. Definitely a key to their Super Bowl. That said, he has zero experience drafting. Scouts are sent home predraft. That's their vacation time.
    The Eagles have been extremely active trading and that's how they built that Super Bowl roster.
    Check their recent drafts. They relied on trades and FAs.
    As far as Clowney, Douglas has already reached out to the Texans so he's definitely interested
     
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  2. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t mind the Jets bringing Clowney aboard but NOT for a first round pick. I would imagine that conversation wouldn’t go very far. However quite frankly I would consider Clowney an underachiever at this point considering his draft status.

    Douglas should offer a second round pick and maybe a third or fourth in 2021 assuming the Jets can sign him long term. Unfortunately what the Texans really want ( OL ) the Jets are lacking.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't help us. With Mosley, we wouldn't have traded for Mack and wouldn't have been able to fit both under the cap. Plus we couldn't have afforded to trade the picks for him as we then wouldn't be able to fix our OL next offseason.
     
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    When we need draft picks to fix our OL, our CB and WR positions, why in the world would we want to trade picks for an underachieving edge rusher? With his athletic talent he should have been dominating, putting up monster numbers alongside Watt and he hasn't. If we had the cap space and didn't have concerns with our OL, CBs and WRs, I'd say sure, why not trade for him, but as it is, there's no way it should even be a consideration.
     
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    Powell, the Chiefs 6th and a conditional 3rd. Becomes a second if he resigns next season. They need insurance behind Ajayi who they are supposed to be signing
     
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    We have $15M in space, we could’ve easily moved money around to fit Mack. And as for the draft picks, a player of his caliber is always worth it. He never ever should’ve been available in the first place.
     
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    I hear what you’re saying but its been reported Douglas has already reached out to the Texans. I’m trying to imagine what he could offer which would be accepted by them.

    In a perfect world I’d rather he swap L. Williams straight up but we know that’s not reality the Texans don’t need DL.
     
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    I cant see them accepting a 31 year old RB as part of a package for Clowney. I know they lost Miller but I would imagine they’d be looking for a better deal than that.
     
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    That would be a home run for us.

    Question for you--what if they asked for Ty Montgomery? Would you do it?
     
  10. TonyFtLaud

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    They supposedly have a deal in place with Ajayi, he has injury concerns, they also get a 6th, a third, possible second if he resigns. I'm sure before making a trade Douglas would have a tentative deal in place for next year with Clowney.
    A sixth, and third possible second and a player who helps them immediately for player they are going to lose with no compensation is not bad. It's going to be dependent on what other offers they recieve.
     
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  11. TonyFtLaud

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    Personally, I would.
    It's much easier to find a backup RB than edge rusher. We still have Powell and Cannon. Clowney is extremely disruptive and would be a major help at masking the deficiencies at corner.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    Mack is a great player and never should have been available. We definitely agree on that.

    I respectfully disagree that a player of his talent is always worth the draft picks. That all depends upon the situation While he may be worth those draft picks to many teams, he wasn't and isn't worth them to a team like the Jets that has a LOT of holes and little depth, and a shaky OL at best. Adding Mack and then losing Sam to serious injury would hurt this team, not help it.

    If you're saying that we could have traded for him before we signed Mosley, we would have had the cap space, but still, we wouldn't have been able to then fix the OL next year and maybe not in 2021 either with all the draft picks that we'd have had to give up, and who knows if there will be any good LTs in the 2021 draft. If you're saying that we could/should have traded for Mack if he became available this year after we had signed Mosley, then there's no way we'd have invested such a huge chunk of the cap in two LBs, and I disagree that we'd have been able to make the room under the cap. That makes no sense. You do realize that Mack signed a 6-year $141 million contract don't you? It would have cost the Jets at least that much maybe more to sign him, and I'll bet his cap hit would have been more than $15 million. Moving money around isn't that easy, either. You wind up pushing money into later years of contracts when the players' abilities are declining and likely wind up with a lot of dead money on the cap. That's not smart cap management.

    Mack is simply a wet dream. We were in no position to trade for him and frankly, he would have been wasted on the Jets. He wouldn't have made us a contender by himself, and even if we traded for him before we signed Mosley, we probably wouldn't have had the cap space to sign Crowder and Bell and Kalil, and we wouldn't have Q. Williams and quite likely several other players. We definitely wouldn't have had the cap space after signing Mosley. If Mack was available this year and Mac had traded for him, he probably wouldn't have been fired, either.
     
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    On the surface it would appear to be a great deal, but what if Bell goes down with injury as he has in most years of his career? Montgomery is more of a receiver than RB. Who's going to rush the ball for you? In all likelihood, you wind up weakening the offense to help the D. It would be even worse if we traded Montgomery. Trading two picks would leave Douglas with only 5 picks next year. I think it would be a bad move and hope that Douglas isn't even seriously considering it.
     
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    Yep... so there's no real incentive to start paying taxes if you have an option..
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I don’t think that’s a driving force here. Reports are he want to go to Seattle or Philly. Don’t think either is that interested.
     
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    You want to create turnovers? go out and get Clowney. He has a nose for the football and if you watch him go after the QB, he almost always is slapping at the football while he's making the sack.
     
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    To me Robby Anderson and the 1st rd pick are off limits. If we can get Clowney for any other tradeable assets I’m fully onboard.
     
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    Lev Bell and Robby Anderson for Clowney, Duke Johnson and a 2nd round pick.

    Book it

    /s
     
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    We're gonna lose Jamal Adams.:(
     
  20. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Not that I want this to happen or even that I think it necessarily will, but I wouldn’t be shocked if at some point Anderson‘s name is mentioned as being on the trading block. If he has a good season, he’s going to demand a huge contract and I’m not sure that’s a guy you can trust with a huge contract. And if he has a sub par season you know there is always a team that will be willing to overpay. Like I said I don’t think this is the mindset, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they want to capitalize on him rather than overpay or let him walk for nothing.

    All this being said, no way I trade Robby in a Clowney deal.
     

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