Leonard Williams looks fat to me

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  1. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Well then youre just too quick.

    Lets go with it. Im ok with mediocrity and YOU demand excellence.

    Glad you actually believe this shit

    Were there high picks who are better than Leo? DUh, yeah. So? Luck is a QB, trumps all and the hottest prospect in 50 years. So? Would you feel better about yourself if I names the countless pick who I wouldnt even think of trading for Leo? There are a whole lot more that I wouldnt go near than I would take over him. But thats too obvious for you. Makes too much sense. Better to bitch and moan

    NO matter how many times ive asked you to go away you just keep it going. Dont you have a f'n off switch? Why do some of you just believe that you need to keep posting as if I'm going to believe the BS your selling
     
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    I agree. Moss was unbelievable but Rice was unreal over his career. Cant forget that some of Moss's down years were because he just didnt give a shit. I remember Moss, Culpepper etc playing the Jets at GS, think it was one of Chads first starts and most of the first half watching Moss not even attempt to run out routes, he just was pissed that the ball wasnt going to him.

    Namath with a. today medical proceedures, b. todays athlete's, c. todays rules so skewed to the offense would be unstoppable. Be could run with any of them and had an absolute cannon for an arm.

    I always wonder how things would have turned out if SF drafted Toon instead of Rice. He was on their radar, was the highly regarded one. What would Toons career have been with Montana, Young, Walsh and probably with that offensive style, maybe without the concussions.
     
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    Please find all those imaginary quotes you think youve read from Leo where he makes excuses about being double teamed.

    Another I'll just make shit up post to make some kind of point.
     
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    Yeah, you know because thats exactly the job description for an interior lineman in a 3-4 D. LOL
     
  5. TonyFtLaud

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    Name the Patriots top 10 pick who is a generational talent?
    The Eagles , Rams, Broncos, Panthers, Ravens, Seattle,Giants, Saints, 49ers. Please find me the generational talent on any one of those teams picked top 10 that led their team to a Super Bowl soon after.
    Should be easy as your estimate has the odds at 100%

    What you are just to dense to understand is that there are not 10 players per draft with generational talent. If there were, generational would simple equal above avg.
    If a player if one of the top at his position in numerous catagories, one of the top players from his draft class, is a team leader , you want that player on your roster . Dumping above average players like that will never improve your W-L record.

    How many VLTs went to the other 9 of the 2015 drafts top 10. 100%%
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the Patriots don't have a generational talent as a top 10 pick because they aren't ever shitty enough to pick in the top 10
     
  7. LF911SC

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    So you just completely missed the point by ignoring:

    "The Eagles , Rams, Broncos, Panthers, Ravens, Seattle,Giants, Saints, 49ers. Please find me the generational talent on any one of those teams picked top 10 that led their team to a Super Bowl soon after."

    Missing the point is pretty much par for the course with you, isnt it. Accuracy is meaningless, just the need to keep arguing no matter what
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    eagles. - wentz
    rams - orlando pace, gurley, torry holt
    broncos - Elway, von miller
    panthers - cam newton, Julius peppers
    Ravens - terrell Suggs
    Giants - Eli Manning
    Saints- ok, they don't have any
    49ers - Ronnie Lott

    that was easy
     
  9. LF911SC

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    And completely wrong, none of those players are generational players who led their teams to titles.

    Amybe you need to brush up on what exactly is meant by a generational pick.or the phrase soon after. You know not like being in the league for a 100 years and then finally winning when you get a great RB.
     
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    LOL - there are multiple hall of famers on that list
     
  11. WarriorRB28

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    They lucked out found theirs in the sixth round. Some guy named Tom Brady perhaps you've heard of him?

    I hear he's in the discussion for best player at his position all-time.

    Oh and Gronk too. Another guy in the discussion for greatest ever at his position.

    I don't understand what you are arguing against.

    Are you saying that great players aren't necessary to win championships?
     
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    He did say he wouldn't take Andrew Luck or a prime Barry Sanders & A.P. over our precious, underachieving Leo.

    His talent evaluation skills seem to be a bit lacking,
     
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    Another easily confused.

    SOJF was crying that top picks have to perform like HOF, generational players

    He was asked who are all those top picks, who are considered generational who quickly brought their teams a SB.

    Not only dont you understand why theres an argument, you dont even get the meaning of the question.

    Kind of is on you, its not hard
     
  15. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    yeah, he's kind of a psycho and definitely a bit of a delusional homer
     
  16. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Truly great players just go out and get the job done.

    Cross your fingers that Quinnen Williams has the same characteristics as Jamal Adams. Few times I've seen so many people gush about a player coming out of college as him.

    Then cross your fingers the Jets are smart enough to see what they have in Jamal Adams lock him up long term. I've already seen the media throw out the possibility of trading away Adams because he's so outspoken. Of course you know where that cash would go re-signing this JAG Leo.
     
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    So you found an article where Leo is joking discussin how he'll free him up if brought together in the draft? OOOOOOh, thats him making excuses for not getting sacks. Wheres Leo complaining that his game or numbers are suffering?

    Saying it might stop what I'm saying as are others who watch and know the game happens to him most of the time? By him correctly saying what youre saying doesnt happen is Leo making excuses now. Which words did you read that said any of this?

    Again, you guys are really bad at this.
     
  18. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    I ask again. What are you arguing against?

    Are you saying that great players aren't necessary to win championships? The most likely place to get those is at the top of the draft.

    Yes or no question.
     
  19. BrowningNagle

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    I don't see Jamal Adams being a long term guy here. The Jets traditionally don't hang onto guys like that. Guys that shake things up and try to hold the rest of the organization accountable. I bet he leaves in F.A. and they try to justify it
     
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    You left our Richard Sherman. Generational maybe not but probably going into the HOF.
    The Pats drafted Richard Seymour at 6. Played on 4 SB teams, 2 SB championship teams and in my opinion is going into the HOF and for a couple of years was the best defensive player in the league.

    Can you put two guys named Richard not Dick into the HOF?
     
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