Alabama hires serial liar Rich Rodriguez

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  1. Yisman

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    #1 Yisman, Dec 8, 2006
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    money talks
     
  3. 17a_tailgater

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    NOW WEST VIRGINIA IS going to ante up to make him stay.he just got a new contract last year and b/c bama wants him,WV has to reupp their ante to keep him
     
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    That will suck for WVU if he leaves. They have done a kick ass job the last couple of seasons. Would hate to see him go.
     
  5. Yisman

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    this is messed up. Sources reported the deal as done, and now reports are coming out of West Virginia that, as 17a said, WV offered him a good raise or something.

    This is kind of ridiculous. Rodriguez recently signed a "7 year contract", after all.
     
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    ESPN.com reports he's staying at WVU.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

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    What is Rodriguez going to do? Tell his team that he's leaving for Alabama right before a bowl game? Gimme a break. It's a business decision.
     
  8. GreenMachine

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    Who is the serial liar now yisman??
     
  9. F Miami

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    It was posturing for more money from WVU.
     
  10. Yisman

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    are you for serious?
     
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    it'ss till RR, he told 'Baam he was accepting he job and backed out after getting more $ from WVU again. This is part of the reason I didn't want UNC to hire him or try to hire him. He's a jerk, he runs up the score, he's classless, he's a liar. Check this story from pft:

    BERTON TEES OFF ON ROD

    NFL tight end Sean Berton, a three-year veteran who currently is out of football as he rehabs a knee injury, recently contacted us once it became apparent that incoming Alabama coach Rich Rodriguez was speaking with forked tongue regarding his desire to remain the head coach at West Virginia for the rest of his career.

    Berton, as he told us by e-mail, was the victim of an untruth from Rodriguez several years ago, when Rodriguez came to Morgantown to take over the WVU program.

    Though Berton, a Pittsburgh native, wanted to stay with the Mountaineers after the retirement of Don Nehlen, Berton also recognized that the quarterback in Rodriguez's spread-option offense throws the ball to the tight end roughly as often as he throws it to the kicker.

    So Berton asked Rodriguez how many catches the tight ends made during his last year as offensive coordinator at Clemson.

    "I asked him flat out if he'd have a role for me and how much the tight ends played at Clemson and how many catches they had last year," Berton said. "He said yes, and told me they caught around 30 to 35 [passes]."

    Thinking that the number sounded a bit high, Berton fired up his computer and checked the real numbers.

    In reality, the tight ends caught five passes in Rodriguez's final year with Clemson.

    Upset that he'd been lied to by Rodriguez, Berton went to see Nehlen, who stayed on to coach the Music City Bowl after Rodriguez was hired. Nehlen signed the paperwork allowing Berton to transfer to N.C. State.

    Then, Berton went to see Rodriguez.

    "I met with Rodriguez after the game and told him cordially and politely, thanks for taking the time to meet with me but I intended to transfer," Berton said. "He looked me dead in the eye, and said, 'Well, what makes you think I'm gonna let you transfer?'"

    So Berton then pulled out the release that Nehlen already had signed, and Rodriguez's hands were tied.

    Thus, it shouldn't surprise anyone that Rodriguez apparently has a little problem with telling the truth. And we suggest that the folks in Tuscaloosa keep that in mind when Bobby Bowden retires at Florida State, and when Rodriguez promptly declares that he plans to stay at Alabama for the rest of his career.

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
     
  12. Cakes

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    Explanation please. Produce one.
     
  13. nyjunc

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    I've seen games where he is still scoring after he's up 20-30 points late in games. I don't have a memory off the top of my head but I'm sure I can look it up. Why didn't you question me when I wrote that about him when his name first surfaced as a candidiate at UNC? That was the reason I gave and you didn't dispute it then.
     
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    80 points VS. Rutgers, 'nuff said.
     
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    The Mountaineers led 59-0 at halftime. The score was bloated due to six turnovers by Rutgers in the first half.

    Rich Rodriguez pulled his starting quarterback at halftime. I seem to recall hardly any starters played in the second half, maybe none, in fact.

    The Mountaineers scored 14 points in the 3rd quarter and only 7 points in the 4th quarter. One of the 3rd quarter TDs was a 51-yard run. The 4th quarter TD came on a 60-yard run. I'm not sure that constitutes running up the score. A backup found a hole and was gone. Nothing more. That wasn't a sustained drive.

    Did you want WVU kneeling on every snap in the second half?

    Also, note that the Rutgers TD drive in the 4th quarter took 8:09 off the clock. West Virginia just did not have the ball much in the second half. I don't know where they ran up the score in that game.
     
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    If you don't look it up and post findings, then I will when I have time.




    You mentioned this idea in the past and I dismissed it succinctly. Now that the regular season is over and we are done yapping about schedule strength ad nauseam, I am more willing and able to discuss the running-up-the-score allegations at this particular time.
     
  17. Cakes

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    I hadn't looked at this thread since Monday.
    I remember lying in bed that night and "saw" this comment after I hadn't paid much attention to it while replying at around 9:30 that night.

    This statement struck me as being very, very odd.

    C'mon, junc. You mean to tell me you've watched West Virginia games when they were up by 20+ points in the 4th quarter?

    I am an actual West Virginia fan and I struggle to watch their games when they are up by 20+ in the 4th quarter!

    I can't take you seriously when you say you've watched WVU games in those situations.

    I have alerted some WVU fans to this thread. They don't know where you have come to the conclusion that Rodriguez runs up the score.

    ***

    The following is not in reference to West Virginia, but rather my general thoughts on the issue of running up the score.

    College football teams do sometimes play for style points. The typical voter does not watch every play of every college game. I don't care what the team is or who their opponent is, but winning 24-21 doesn't look as nice as winning 48-21.

    At one time, margin of victory was included in the BCS ranking formula. It may or may not still be looked at, I'm really not sure.

    Conclusion-
    Running up the score can help a team in the human polls and it may help with the computers.
     
  18. nyjunc

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    I always flip around and seeing a team trying to run up the score catches my eye.

    Against Eastern Wash they were up 45-3 and still throwing passes in the 4th qtr on a TD drive to make it 52-3, a TD they scored w/ :47 secs to play. That's not running it up?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=262520277

    up 30-11 against UConn Steve Slaton runs it 56 yards for the TD. i don't have a problem w/ a long TD run but wh is Steve Slaton still in the game w/ 5 1/2 mins to play in a blowout?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=262930041

    In '04 up 42-20 against UCF in the 4th qtr they tried a 54 yard FG rather than punting.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=242552116

    In '04 up 31-3 on ECU they were throwing n the 4th qtr and scored 2 more Tds to win 45-10.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?confId=&gameId=242690277


    In '02 up 35-0 in the 4th qtr over Chatanooga they scored 3 Tds including a pass.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=222430277&quarter=4

    Up 33-0 on RU in '02 they scored a TD passing w/ under 4 mins to play to make it 40-0.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=222850164&quarter=4

    In '02 up 27-7 against SU they scored a TD w/ :15 secs left to make it 35-7.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=222920277&quarter=4

    In '02 up 40-20 on Temple they scored a TD w/ :12 secs left.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=223060218&quarter=4

    ESPN doesn't have any earlier boxscors than '02 but I think the point has been proven.
     
  19. Cakes

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    I don't have time to click on the boxscores right now, but will later tonight or tomorrow. Some of those games I am not familiar with because they were not available to me on television. The only thing I can say is that I haven't seen WVU run up the score. I am able to see usually 7 of the regular season games per year and, of course, always watch them in bowl games.

    In 2002 margin of victory may still have been part of the BCS formula. If so, you have to throw out those games.

    One of the WVU fans who does not have an account here but did read this thread, anticipated you would mention the Eastern Washington game. I'll go copy his comment and paste it here.




    I still would like to know your thoughts on running up the score in general, especially considering the fact teams have to impress voters.
     
    #19 Cakes, Dec 16, 2006
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  20. Cakes

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    I still have it, after all. He posted in my NFL Pick 'Em league.

     

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