I know that almost everyone on this board is in agreement that the Jets should address the Edge pass rush at 3 or at the very least in the 1st round if they trade down. Is there any chance though that the Jets shock us all (assuming they can't trade down and that Bosa is gone) that they reach for LT Jonah Williams? To be very clear, I would not be happy if they did this, but in a way I would understand it. Protecting Sam Darnold should absolutely be at the top of the list. The draft talk has been pretty dead the last few weeks because we are all under the assumption that they will draft Allen/Williams if Bosa is gone. Anyone out there think they may slightly reach to protect Sam?
With Mac, there's no telling what he will do. Presently, we don't have a backup LT on the roster, but almost everyone projects Jonah Williams having to move inside to OG or at best to RT. I would be royally pissed if Mac stayed at #3 and took Jonah Williams. If he wants a future LT that badly now, I'd rather he trade down, take Burns or some other edge rusher with the first round pick he gets in exchange, and then with the 2nd round pick take one of Greg Little, Yodney Cajuste or even Tytus Howard. Long term, I like all of their chances at LT better than I do Jonah Williams, but I will admit that probably wouldn't help us this season if Beacham were to go down with an injury. Hopefully Beacham will stay healthy or there will be a LT who is a camp cut that would be a serviceable backup for a year or two. Due to his technique, Jonah Williams could probably play LT in the NFL, but would only be average or a little below average, kind of like Beacham is now. I really want a better LT to anchor our future OL than Jonah Williams.
If Mac's in depth analysis of the edge rushers in this draft show him that none of them are the god-send we think they are, and Jonah looks like the real deal (settling our LT position for the next 10-12 years) then Mac may go that route. That's what Mac's paid to do. If he feels Allen's ceiling is Quinton Coples, and Jonah's ceiling is D'Brick, then.....
Mac hates offensive line and has been trying and failing to acquire a pass rusher all year. If we don’t trade down there’s no way I see him going LT. He probably likes Beachum more than anyone else to boot.
I have never seen a GM puts so little time/attention into an OL than McCagnan (and it shows). I wonder if his new OL coach will even show up for the draft, because his voice won't mean squat to McIdiot on draft day.
I don't see it. The team needs an edge rusher in the worst way and Jonah isn't a blue chip OL prospect from what I've seen and read. There are 2 blue chip edge guys IMO and we should be able to land one of them at 3. There's a better group of OT's next year to pick from. If anything, I hope C will get addressed in round 3 as I have doubts that Harrison can be more than a backup.
No chance. Jawaan Taylor is the best tackle in the draft so if he’s is going to reach Taylor’s the pick And this poll needs to allow multiple answers. Also, if by some crazy chance the draft went bosa, Allen I wouldn’t hate it if mac didn’t get cute and just took Taylor.
Only if the Jets trade down. #3 is too high to grab Jonah. This draft class isn't very good for oline, and he could easily be a bust. It's not like Quentin Nelson is waiting there.
From all the analysts, Coaches, and talk show hosts I have heard from the consensus is that taking any OL in Round 1 is unnecessary as there are many quality players in Round 2. Of course, barring a trade scenario, we are bereft 2nd rounders for this draft. We can go to the 3rd Round but what is the drop off in quality? so Penny's point is well taken but imo not really a possibility of happening. You end up with these dilemmas because our FO has neglected this important aspect of the game for years
From what I am reading, Jonah compares favorably to Joe Staley who is a very good LT for the 49ers. If that was Jonah's ceiling, I would be happy with him, but only if Bosa was gone. I'd be thrilled if we were able to land him after trading back. That would be awesome.
I think people are really looking at that matchup against Clemson and are fully judging him based off that performance. I think hes being severely underrated due to that game. Stock took a big hit. Hes still a LT IMO and a good one at that. I dont see this as the same situation as Connor Williams. Would I take Jonah at 3? Probably not. You can get him at like 5 or 6 in a trade down.
I wonder if the O-line might be overrated just a bit? Where do other teams find their studs? All in rounds 1 and 2? Or further back? Dallas spent like 20 first round picks in a row on O-Line, had the best O-Line in the nation, and the team didn't do squat. Where does NE get their lineman? They haven't had a top pick in over 15 years. Is it easier to fill out the O-Line in later rounds than the other positions? (WR, DB, LB, TE, etc) It may be better to use early picks on skill positions and do your best in later rounds for O-Line.
Quenton Nelson. I guess for the Patriots, if you can grab their offensive line coach, you can turn shit to gold, but we don't have him.
I'm curious...where did you read that? I haven't read anything even remotely resembling that. Staley has been a very good LT. Jonah has very good technique, but short arms, and doesn't have great movement skills/athleticism. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.
I agree with those that are saying Jonah is being underrated now due to the Clemson game. This guy is going to have a 15 year career as a starter on the OL somewhere. I wouldn’t take him at 3 but he should certainly be an option in a trade down. I do think the Jets will trade down on draft day and he should be one of many options to consider.
Good reply. Coaching is one area a team can spend whatever they want without limit to give their team a true advantage. But coaching $'s come right out of the owner's pocket. Same with front office (GM, scouting, etc). Players salaries are bound by the cap, so all teams are equal in that regard. But coaching and scouting are limitless. If the Johnson brothers are serious, they will spend what they need to to bring in the best coaches and scouting.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...0190410-zj2stlm6qjdnliowxcqkzxyfwi-story.html In summary, Jets trade with 'Skins, move to 15, take Jonah to protect Sam. (Manish). Giants get Allen.
