I don't get the Rhule love. He's not a great innovator and and all we know about him is he can coach college teams. Whereas McCarthy can win in the NFL. If McCarthy isn't your guy, Monken should be.
No idea but if the last decade is any indicator, it’s going to be a yes-man so that he can call his own plays.
Because that offense is outdated in today's NFL. Because it doesn't utilize successful concepts to scheme WRs open or to help the QB get into a rhythm. Because it isn't balanced. I don't understand how you are so blindly wanting him.
Listen, I'm not one with the "league is evolving" train of thought. The league has veered in a new direction, and defenses will figure it out and bounce things back. The air raid 4 verts & mesh systems will become passe just like other systems in the past. McCarthy isn't a "crap coordinator", he's had down years. He also has a pretty shitty roster of players on offense, and in 2017 he had a backup QB and a WR at RB. It happens. People can't say "Rodgers changes his plays" then kill him for having a bad offense. Green Bay, small town or not - is the VATICAN of American Football. That guy held that job for 12 seasons, and came out with a winning record. Like it or not, he developed an Aaron Rodgers who came into the league with a myriad of throwing issues. Call the guy stuck in his ways, but don't say he's "crap", cause he clearly isn't. As Jets fans, we should know crap coaches.
If that is true, then that is precisely why we shouldn't want or hire McCarthy. I have no interest in his outdated, conservative offense.
Matt Rhule definitely in Jets’ mix. Did, in fact, have an interview, as some have been reported. A college coach for nearly his entire career, but spends a lot of time watching NFL tape, I’m told. We’ll see what happens. #Jets I’m on my phone but that’s from Cimini. Glad to see he’s still in the mix
That combined with the fact that he didn't update his offense in GB to include more combination routes, stacked WRs, and schemes to get his WRs open DOES imo.
True, but my question was serious. He coasted on Peyton Mannings coattail in Denver. Miami wasn't good under his leadership and a number of players hated him and wanted him gone or wanted to leave themselves. Just because he's been an OC doesn't make him good. What am I missing about him that you like so much. Please be specific. Help me understand why he would be a great choice as OC or better than Monken.
If I was a coach that could find work anywhere, I would never take a job where I had to look over my shoulder at the coordinator who could potentially take my job. And by the Browns hiring Kitchens as HC, he was right. Not stubborn. Nothing to do with who I want to bring in as a coordinator.
The longer Rhule does not come out and say he's staying put, the more likely it is that he is taking the job. If McCarthy is the play, it should be today. I don't want McCarthy and hope its Rhule
On quite a few articles I read that stated that McCarthy has very few routes in his playbook and very few combination routes. He depends upon his WRs beating their man one-on-one and doesn't use stacked WRs or scheme them open. In the evaluation of his offense, I saw no mention of his calling some easy throws at the beginning of a game to get his QB in a rhythm. Now the point can be made that with regards to the latter point that Rodgers didn't need that, but how about when Rodgers didn't play? McCarthy had little or no success with any other QB not named Rodgers or Favre. Seriously? You don't know who the WRs the Packers have had during McCarthy's tenure? Have you not been reading the forum? There have been plenty of links to articles regarding McCarthy his offense, his difficulties with Rodgers, and I showed the WRs that he had during his tenure in GB: James Jones, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, and Davante Adams.
There is no norm for NFL offenses now. Everyone is running their own thing top to bottom..many college based to cater to young QBs. Not every team or coach schemes their players open.Some take more of an execution/Match up approach. There is nothing wrog w either approach..its whatever works. I really dont think of Mccarthy’s schemes as being outdated.I think his schemes got stale from being in one spot w a polarizing albeit difficult QB whom his relationship soured with. Its also hard to get on his play calls when wevhave no idea what Rodgers is audibling & what is actually Mccarthy’s call. Now is he conservative? Does he lack game management skills? Maybe..i think this is more of a legit concern than his scheme
Monken is interviewing with the Jags today for their OC job. Wouldn't shock me - but would disappoint me - if he ends up there on the basis that Marrone has a short leash.
McCarthy is a old dog. Ya can't teach a old dog new tricks. I just read the Browns were ready to hire him but wanted him to retain Kitchens as OC he declined. Set in his ways. Go with Gase he can be his own OC, more upside, hire Gregg Williams to run the defense.
With regards to the bold, yes they can. Why can't they? With no modern concepts such as scheming WRs open, stacking WRs, etc., and GB's receiving corps not being able to get open on their own, Rodgers has had to extend plays scramble, or change plays in hope that he could find something to work. I said that he was crap in that one regard, not overall. You obviously haven't read all I've written about him. I wanted him early on. If he's willing to update his offense, hire a more aggressive OC and let him call the plays, I still want McCarthy, but if he's going to re-hire his old GB CS and run the same offense, I want no part of him.
