Only 11 coaches in history have coached another team after winning a Super Bowl. Really not that strange that no one won with a second team
winning a SB takes as much luck as anything and you need everything to fall your way, I wouldn't knock anyone as a coach for never winning a SB regardless of the team - all I am saying is that it is a hell of a lot easier to post a winning record when you have a top tier QB on your roster and so you need to take that into account when judging how good a coach is at playcalling or developing players because any half decent coach would be successful if they had a top tier QB on the roster (as has been proven time and time and time again)
If players felt that way about stats, then none of them would play to brake any records because the record is set in stone & can't be broken. Records are meant to be broken. So...who is going to be the first coach to win SB with 2 teams, I don't know, but I will say this, it will be done!
He did lose to the Giants after a home bye and a 15 and 1 season with the No. 1 scoring O and No. 2 Scoring D. He did lose to a 10 and 6 Cardinal team that put up 51 points on them with the 11 ranked scoring O in the NFL. He did crap his pants against Seattle with a SB on the line in the 2015 NFC Championship game. Let me remind you of his brilliant coaching. Up 19 to 7 they had just picked off Wilson with 5:13 to play. Seattle had 3 time outs and McCarthy tried to run out the clock with 3 straight running plays with Aaron Rodgers. The only problem is McCarthy forgot that he couldn't run out the clock without a few first downs. Seattle got the ball back with a little over 4 minutes and proceeded to score twice with a two point conversion. Greenbay was by far the better team on the field in that game. They played their asses off for 56 minutes. Won the turnover battle and had the game won. McCarthy took the ball out of his best players hand when the game wasn't over and set up the loss. He has a solid resume. He also has blown several big playoff games. To me that says he's tight and his teams play tight in big spots. Particularly his defenses. Rodgers is the ultimate cool under fire QB and even with him his teams have imploded in big spots. It's a huge red flag. The year the Cardinals went to NFC Finals with a much better team than GreenBay the Packers tied the game in regulation with a hail merry pass by Rodgers. In OT they left Fitzgerald completely uncovered on a blitz and he took it to the house. Rodgers never got the ball back. I don't see him as a great head coach. He's had the best team in the division for years and a free ride to the playoffs almost every year. He finds way's to lose big games.
So you think say the Bengals and the Cardinals should hire a "hot shot", but the Bucs and the Jets should hire retreads? I'm asking--not trying to put words in your mouth.
Wow, way to bring me down memory lane, and serve me a hot refresher on why I've disliked him since my high school days.
I can see the logic behind a team like the Bengals taking a shot on a 1st timer. They have a structure in place. They're considered a talented and well coached team that was never able to get over the hump. The Jets and Bucs are all hot messes that are in desperate need of some stability and structure. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Are the Bengals considered well coached? I really have no clue but every time I see Marvin Lewis he looks like a deer in headlights.
Everything is relative. I would have loved to have Marvin Lewis the past 4 years instead of Bowles. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
I can see that. I would note that Lewis is responsible for a significant culture change in Cinci. They were the "Bungles" while they missed the playoffs for 15 straight years before he showed up--the Bengals of that era were a bigger joke than the Browns have been of late That culture change is behind only what Dungy did in Tampa Bay and Walsh did in San Francisco, in my book.
I don't see him as a "great" HC, either. That's why I'd prefer Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh if they were available. They probably won't be, however. We've tried way too many times going with rookie HCs who have to learn on the job. I concede that Todd Monken could possibly be a better HC than McCarthy. He could also be worse. I believe that McCarthy is probably a safer pick, but that's not why I want him. I think that more than any other quality, the Jets need an experienced HC to discipline this young team and develop a winning culture. Of the former HCs (retreads) who are available, I believe that he is probably the best option. Greg Williams might be better, but he's a defensive-minded coach and whatever he's doing right may be due to the specific situation in Cleveland. Since Monken has HC experience at the collegiate level, I won't be upset if he is the one the Jets hire.
My feeling is that an older, experienced HC like McCarthy would be awesome at maintaining the status quo. He knows how to run a handful of offenses and defenses really good. He's an average HC that would coach an average team to an 8-8 record every year. Kind of like Jeff Fisher. Nothing flashy, but for most owners, good enough. Keeps fans in the stands. Keeps jersey sales up. Keeps parking fees and beer sales on tract. Keeps pockets flush with cash. No, he won't set the NFL on fire with new, exotic formations, but he won't end the season 3-13 either. He's safe, very safe. Would Johnson hire a young fire brand HC with a 50/50 shot at a 14-2 season (or a 2-14 season)? Or hire someone 'safe'? An 8-8 HC with the occasional 10-6 + playoffs every 3 years? If he hires McCarthy, he won't have to worry about winning SBs, but he won't have to worry about fans revolting after yet another 3-13 season either.
And Chris Johnson will continue to rake in obscene amounts of cash which I think is the real bottom line. Upside? Discipline and finally being taught how to play winning football.
