Tracking Sam Darnold vs Other Rookie QBs

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you don't watch much political news..
     
  2. MeanGreenMachine88

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    Mayfield is trash I fully expect him and the browns to crash and burn they are leaveland after all
     
  3. MeanGreenMachine88

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    You put Darnold on a team with Chubb Hyde duke Johnson and Jarvis Landry and their defense and they’d make the fuckin playoffs in that pathetic division
     
  4. BroadwayAaron

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    I’ll get into it more when I met an actual computer but I guarantee if you take any six or seven games stretch of Allen‘s first year and compare it to the six or seven games that Lamar started (again I don’t know the number offhand) I’d be willing to bet the efficiency rate is much higher with Lamar. Less turnovers for Lamar and I know the completion percentage is better, that’s for sure. But I know you hate completion percentage so who knows...

    What an awful post.

    Touché. Facts don’t matter much these days.
     
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  5. Harpua

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    did SGB start a second account?
     
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    All I can say is thank god the browns drafted mayfield before we had the chance to
     
  7. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    It’s amazing that the dumbest Baker Mayfield posts are happening AFTER he’s already proven to be a starting caliber quarterback in the NFL.
     
  8. Harpua

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    The dude is obviously trash, he barely broke the rookie TD record in 13 games.
     
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  9. MeanGreenMachine88

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    The jurys still out on him just like it is on almost every QB. He’s not long for this league anymore than RG3 was

    In 15 years Darnold and Baker is gonna be looked at like Peyton and Ryan leaf
     
  10. Billsfan1212

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    Naw man, i get the #s, im just saying in todays day and age anyone can find a group of numbers thats favorable or negative, group em together, and have them fit your narrative. We wont see eye too eye just based on your assessment of comp % being a gauge of accuracy. To me thats just an old school mentality. Nothing wrong w it - just wont agree.

    Ive stated why im excited about allen.
    Honestly, the Bills could get 12 wins next year and allen plays solid and you would still be on his comp % or say he got lucky or find a group of stats to explain it away. You dislike the kid - i get it.
    The good news is he isnt your qb.
    After year one, personally, id much prefer allen over darnold just bc im a fan of anything happening on any play. A more conservative bills fan or any jets fan would say otherwise and thats cool.
    I guess my point is as good as darnold was and as good as i feel allen was, they are still rookies with unfinished stories. BUT, just as your mind wont change on Allen regardless of what ya saw, i feel id rather allen just as strongly.

    Which is fun, bc hopefully it adds up to a bunch of good bills/jets games for years to come!!!
     
  11. BroadwayAaron

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    Good point. What a loser. Perfect match for Cleveland.

    I can’t wait to go back into some of those pre-draft threads and dig up some Baker Mayfield posts.
     
  12. BuffaloBills06

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    Or they’re just living their best life?
     
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    jesus are you a 13 year old girl or something? this is a football board not instagram.
     
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    Brady got you mad?
     
  15. BroadwayAaron

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    Let me start by saying I think it’s absolute lunacy that completion percentage is tossed out the window completely when talking about accuracy. I understand that it’s not everything but you want to make it nothing. That’s just not something I’m willing to do and there’s not something I’ve ever seen anyone do when discussing quarterbacks.

    Also if it’s one outlier season where the completion percentage is down and it doesn’t match what you’ve seen throughout the course of someone’s career or what you’re seeing on tape I totally get the argument. But this is what Allen has done his whole career. Two years as a starter in a bad conference and one year in the pros his completion percentage has been well below average. If you think that’s pure coincidence then you’re just seeing things through rose colored glasses.

    The rest of your post is just all conjecture based off an imaginary 12 win season so it’s not really worth responding to. I guess my question for you is since you claim you can find the numbers that satisfy every argument if you look hard enough, what numbers do you have to prove that Allen is a good thrower?
     
  16. BuffaloBills06

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    Kids got the “it” factor
     
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  18. BroadwayAaron

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    I’ve never seen so much hype over a guy that threw for more picks than TDs on 52% completion in my life, and we were pretty stupid with Sanchez.
     
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    The second to last day of 2018 you write the dumbest post of the year. Congratulations.
     
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    Whatever dude you’ll see this year was the ceiling for Baker
     

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