" Big Game Hunting" Coach

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  1. jetsclaps

    jetsclaps Well-Known Member

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    Gerald McCoy, lavonte david, and Brent grimes. 4 and I would have struggled. I think theres a LB called Kwon or something. I could google it but I havent cheated yet and i dont want to start now.
     
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    Mike Smith's star has fallen much like Dennis Allen. Once you go back to being a coordinator and don't do well people start putting less stock in your previous success as HC. I think this happened to Jim Fassel as well (though Fassel was suspected of being a drinker) Smith is viewed as a guy who was mostly the beneficiary of a good roster rather than a guy whose leadership and in game x's and o's performance are the main reason for their teams success. Brian Billick is looked upon the same way
     
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    PFT reporting at least one NFL team will be making a huge run for Jim Harbaugh. Apparently there will be a lot of money put on the table.

    It would not surprise me if this team is the Jets, especially given the reports they are going "big game" hunting. Give him a lot of money and full control of the team. I would get behind that.

    The team is not named.
     
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    If we can land John Harbaugh I'd be ecstatic. I'm not sure I would put McCarthy so high on my list, I'd rather take risk with a guy like Toub, Carmichael, or Bieniemy. In the past I've said I'd be livid with McCarthy but I think we could do a lot worse so I've warmed up to him in the past week or so.
     
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    Blank check. Full team control. Franchise QB, 100M in cap, top 5 draft pick. Please for the love of God let it be the Jets.
     
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    Mortimer? is that you?
     
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    • Norv as OC
    • Rex as DC
    • Harbaugh is our HC!???
    That would cover all 3 phases of the game??
     
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    JH as HC
    Norv as OC
    petine as DC
     
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    I think this is a fine illustration of the whole problem with the idea of hiring a guy who has NFL Head Coaching experience. Posters here regularly demand a that the next guy be an experienced NFL head coach, but they don't want any of the experienced NFL head coaches because the ones that are available are available for a reason.
     
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    This is hard to believe considering Harbaugh's recent comments that he will not be leaving.
     
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    I've warmed up to McCarthy over a coordinator for one reason. McCarthy has the clout to take control of the front office and hopefully fire Mac if necessary.
     
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    Money screams...
     
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    If you have to throw that much money at him to get him to come here you have to question the desire he will bring. It’s the Phil Jackson/New York knicks effect. I’d rather have someone itching to get an nfl coaching job than someone we have to lure here.
     
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    RG3's game was based on his threat as a runner. His legs forced the defense to lay off his passing game, and resulted in his ~70% completion percentage. RG3 got hurt, he lost his legs, his game went with it. I wouldn't blame Shanahan for RG3's career, and think that it could happen to Darnold.

    On the contrary, Shanahan looked great in Denver with a HOF QB. I think most coaches would. I'm too young to know if he had a part in making Elway a HOF'er or not.
     
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    To be fair, some of the posters don't like any "retread" for the very reason you mentioned (because he's available for a reason). Others posters want an experienced HC, but want to pick their own "poison." Yes, each former HC who is available is available for a reason. In the minds of some posters one "reason" is more damning than another, depending upon what they look for or value in a HC or what they think the team needs.

    I'd say that:

    A) We'll probably never see everyone on a Jets fan site agree about anything.

    B) Most posters want Bowles fired.

    C) Many, if not most, of those posters who want Bowles fired think that we need an offensive-minded HC.

    D) Many, if not most, posters who want Bowles fired think we need an experienced HC.

    E) Some posters who belong in group D think that we need a HC with experience as a HC in the NFL.

    F) Some posters who belong in group D think it doesn't matter if the HC has been an NFL HC, he just needs NFL coaching experience.

    G) Some posters who belong in group C think that the HC should have been an NFL OC.

    H) Some posters who belong in group C think it doesn't matter if the new HC has been an OC in the NFL.

    I) Just because a poster is in group C, doesn't mean that he/she is in group D or vice-versa. Some think getting an offensive-minded HC who can develop Sam is the most important aspect. Others think that getting an experienced HC who doesn't have to learn on the job is the most important aspect.

    J) Some posters don't care if it's an experienced or novice HC, an offensive-minded HC, a former DC, or a former STs Coordinator, they just want "the right" HC.

    Thus, it's no wonder we see so much confusion and so little consensus.
     
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    Elway was already going to be a HOF'er before Shanahan became HC there.
     
  17. Nick Sabine’s LSU press conference,Bobby Petrinos Falcons Press conferences ring a bell?

    Deny till ya die
     
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  18. chandler

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    there's a certain logic to this except that our team stinks. If you were an elite coach or player you would want a premium

    Look at the NBA, if you're a max player why the heck would you ever want to join a losing franchise. You can make the same max money and win

    Having said that we have certainly passed on candidates who genuinely appeared interested in the Jets job, only to see them succeed elsewhere :-(
     
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    Harbaugh had all sorts of issues with the 9ers hierarchy, most notably with Trent Baalke.

    If you're going to offer Harbaugh a ton to come to the jets, and think he's going to work for Maacagnan, it's not gonna happen.

    He will want full control
     
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    I would imagine you could say the same for any successful former HC thinking about the Jets job. Macc just doesn't have the cache yet to be a desireable GM you'd want to stake your legacy on. Neither does the Jet ownership. That's why I think this big name hunt will require a lot of cash OR it will be in vain. Besides, do they really want to marry Macc to another HC he didn't hire and repeat the dual track failed experiment?

    I certainly hope not..
     
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    To me it seems pretty clear. the Johnson bro's are going to likely be met with a big decision that could either propel the jets to legitimacy or further dip us into ineptitude. Do you go big game hunting, offer the entire show, or extend Macc and expect to coerce a prized HC candidate with money.

    I can tell you the likes of John or Him Harbaugh will not come to the jets if Macc is here. I don't even think Mike Shanahan will do that.

    IMO, Maccagnan may need to go out of necessity. He doesn't have the track record to appeal to big name HC's imo. Some may say oh he got Darnold, which is great, and I think it was a great move, but if you look at his entire body of work, it's middle of the pack kind of stuff.

    I may be wrong in all of this, but I know if I was a big name HC, I wouldn't want to get saddled with a GM who strikes out on players as much as Macc does.
     

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