The "Talent" on this team is so Bad

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  1. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Where ya been? Here on TGG we've been singing this hymn all season.
     
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  2. NCJetsfan

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    Let's not forget Idzik's 1 for 12 in 2014. That took a special kind of incompetence. If he had just drawn names out of a hat, he should have had at least 3-4 players stick (or more).
     
  3. NCJetsfan

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    Wait...you mean that the Jets are allowed to have talented players?
     
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    She's a very kinky girl. The kind you don't take home to mother. She will never let your spirits down once you get her off the street.

     
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    Sometimes people don't read the Message Board, think of an idea, and then make a thread about it, not realizing it has been talked about and covered by many posters in many threads. This is one of those threads. :Law and Order sound:
     
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    Special Victims Unit? 'cause I feel like the Jets have screwed me.
     
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    Not a scientist, are we.
     
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    Cocaine is a hell of a drug
     
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    LOL It certainly seems so the way so many celebrities and athletes have sniffed so much of their money up their nose.
     
  11. Or other places for the likes of stevie nicks & nikki sixx
     
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    As I've said before and gotten ridiculed for, while Mac is better than Idzik, Tanny was better than Mac. And Mac is closer to Idzik than Tanny.
     
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  13. Where Tanny was better than Mac was Free agency,building an OL, & finding impact talent even at the sacrifice of significant draft capital.Tanny was more the CEO type w a background in cap management who was very dependent on his top scouts to formulate personnel decisions & player evaluation.He was reckless on draft day & didnt value late round picks as evident by the likes of Scotty Mcknightor Robert T. Griffin.

    Mac is the better evaluator of talent & more draft focused.His strategies on draft day are clear cut & of sound reasoning.However his execution has been subpar & a major disappointment.
     
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    Belichick really came up as a special teams coordinator. He switched to DC his last 5 years with the Giants in order to get a shot as a HC
     
  15. Longsuffering88

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    Simply amazing incompetence

    Could have literally just followed Kiper and done better
     
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    Charlie Weiss had the play calling taken away from him by Bill Parcells when he was here. Ron Erhardt was the Giants OC when BB was the DC for the Giants. Steve Crosby was BB OC in Cleveland. Charlie Weis had a run with Tom Brady and has been mediocre every where else.
     
  17. 101GangGreen101

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    The Patriots offensive system in the Brady era was based off Weis's offense, then they started adding some spread principles to the offense. BB took that offense and essentially made it his.
     
  18. Biggs

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    Charlie Weis as an OC in the NFL. Rank in yards 22,4,25, 22, 19, 21, 17, 7, 12 Rank in points 12, 4,19,25,6,10,12,4, 14. Charlie Weis was never a great OC. He was a proven fraud when he took the ND job.

    BB knows more about O than Charlie Weis ever did.
     
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    I am not saying Weis was great, but BB STILL took his offense and made it his ... that's all I am saying. He's more then a defensive HC. He knows all 3 phases at a high level.
     
  20. Biggs

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    BB doesn't have anyone's O. He is a defensive genius. He watches zillions of hours of tape on NFL O's. He knows more about NFL O than almost every NFL OC. DC know how to run an NFL O and OC know how to run an NFL D.

    Coaches who come up the defensive ranks are as a general rule better Head Coaches. It's harder to instal a D that can stop an O than it is to outmaneuver defense because defensive is reactive. It take more unit discipline to win the match ups. O's always have the advantage and with the hand contact taken away from the D and holding allowed by O lineman and illegal picks being allowed it's not that hard to run a competent O that will outmaneuver an NFL D.

    The Jets lack offensive talent period. Bowles is done here but he isn't picking the groceries, Mac is. This idea that there is some offensive genius who is going to give us an edge at head coach is mostly nonsense. We need a great Head Coach who can instal discipline and direction to the coaches and the players. We also need much better talent. Good coaching down the line will follow with the right leader.
     

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