Depends on how he times at the combine. If he's sub 4.5, he could go pretty high. Our pick in the 2nd is likely to be the 33-35th pick. That's a premium spot.
it's always If's less then 3 years which is why you can't judge. by 3 years the ifs go away and the players either sank or swim I also broke down his 1st 2 drafts as well in detail above. i also pointed out before that every player taken after lee in the 1st round basically busted out except for 1 decent WR who has spent half his career injured. Lee was absoultely the right pick there as well but you know you have to look past 1 thing to see the big picture i don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. i said i'll judge mayfeild after 3 years. i also said he's looked better overall then i expected. Mac has done a good job here, bowles not so much but hasn't had much to work with either and if he's gone so be it doens't bother me one bit. I do think mac has done well if you think i'm wrong why not give me a breakdown of every team in every draft that mac has done and see where he ranks. maybe when doing that you'll change your tune hasn't been 4 years and yes everyone in the NFL is graded on a curve. that's how it works. he was mandated to win now right away and somehow put together a 10 win team. then it all came down as expected in year 2. in year 3 he was given the gren light to rebuild. we are now in year 4 which is year 2 of a rebuild. rebuilds generally take 4-6 years and require landing a FQB which it appears he did.
2 of those picks were throwaway 6th rounders who likely wouldn't have produced a decent lineman anyway. it depends how the draft goes. clearly you just don't "get it" i don't agree with every pic he makes. I didn't like the maye pick at the time but it turned out dam good.
Still nitpicking, and no you did not break it down, you only referred to certain players. Mac sucks. Already saw the big picture and it looks like an extremely crappy painting. Talking about WRs, when in reality you are referencing the wrong draft.
Too bad I am referring to his full body of work, the WRs I am mentioning are from the 3rd draft, not the 2nd. Bowles just give it up.
You’re delusional if you think he is being graded on anything other than results. You’re the only one trying to grade him on a curve. And just because he was suppose to try to make the playoffs year one he still had a draft when’re he could have added impact players. 4 years 4 drafts and still a huge void in top end talent. No matter how you try to spin it that is the truth
It does not take three years to judge a draft if the 3rd round pick, the 4th round pick and a 5th round pick are already GONE. That is a HUGE indictment. This is almost Idzik 12 pick level bad.
Christopher Johnson is a shareholder, Chairman and CEO of New York Jets, LLC. I have a problem with the statement that Long was signed as a center. He was signed as a football player; it is up to the coach to utilize him most effectively; hopefully from the beginning, not beginning in game eleven. Other than those things, what you have here is pretty accurate which is why so many here have been calling for a head of football operations position to direct the on field and off field workings of the team.
I like this train of thought....LT at top of first round ( even after a potential trade down ). The 3rd round picks should be a WR and a C. If the Jets are able to recoup a second round pick in a trade go WR there and maybe a CB in whichever round they don’t take a WR. But a LT in the first round and a center in the third is a must to rebuild this OL the right way ...
Spencer Long is a natural guard. He was moved to center on the Redskins last year due to injuries on their line. Mac signed him as a center to replace Wes Johnson when he failed to lure in Jensen . Long is not particularly a good center as evidenced . He was switched back to guard last week and played pretty well. And I wouldn’t trust this coach to utilize anybody properly . The one thing Mac did right in this instance was put an opt out in Long’s contract after this season. However I’m now wondering if perhaps the Jets keep him and move him to guard next year so he can be properly utilized .... That may work out well. Long could go back to second string center if the new starter misses a game or two and would be a better option than Harrison who is completely awful ...
Wish we could send this over to Chris & Woody’s place and dare them to tell us why Mac should keep his job . Part of me wonders if all those lopsided defensive picks were Macc being spineless & giving Bowles his way ... either way he comes out looking bad . The thing that scares me the most is if Macc feels the heat under his ass & spends to win now , as opposed to him looking long term , for fear that he won’t be here . I think you have to extend him at least 2yrs if you decide to keep him on , and let him sink or swim with picking HIS HC . I’m not a fan of anything about Macc besides his contract structures... besides the crap deal to Johnson , he usually gives himself an out after 2 yrs . I’d like to see him shown the door . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'll take back my criticisms of Macc if he's retained and the team starts winning next year. I prefer that he gets the axe along with Bowles though.
But we don't really know how the "equal" thing works, do we? Does Bowles give his shopping list to MacCagnan or does he give an even bigger wish list to the CEO? Does the CEO then edit the list and give it to the GM or does he give him the whole list and say "do the best you can?" We don't know where the responsibility actually lies. Maybe all three sit around a table with pizza and beer and decide together They know and they all will be paying for their decisions, one way or the other.
Well remember FA now......I have a feeling the Jets will pursue EDGE heavily in FA maybe even two players ....the line has to be built primarily through the draft.
