as i said i do want more invested in the offense but to your points 1) the jets were the only team with 4 WRs who each had 800+ yard seasons in their career on the roster. 3 of those did it for us as well kearse and anderson last year and enunwa the year before that. only pryor wasn't with us as he did it in Cleveland a few years ago 2) don't really care about rounds though. lots of late picks can turn out to be great players. maguire and cannon were our 3rd and 4th RBs as well and there are some teams that they could have had playing time on (at least maguire) we haven't used any high picks on offensive players that have panned out and yeah it sucks and we are paying for that right now, but we have 3 picks in the 1st 3 rounds that can all go to offense as well as 100 mil to spend. mac has plenty of chances this offseason to improve the offense. he got us the QB last year now is the time to build around him. it's a great draft for o-line i want a LT in the 1st then load up on more offense with the 2 3rds. there are also some good slot WRs in free agency to grab and anderson and enunwa will be back and healthy as well. i expect an overhaul of our offense in the offseason
Thanks. I figured there was more, but got busy responding to other posts and forgot to look up whom else the Jets drafted during Kotite's tenure.
There should be no reason other than pass rusher and maaaaaaybe a lock down corner falling to us to go defense for any of the first three picks. Draft offensive line!
you never know how it goes. i'm all in for a LT with our 1st pick but what if something crazy happens and bosa falls to us? do you pass on him? do you take him? do you try and trade down? maybe there isn't a good LT but instead there is a stud RB? the draft is a crapshoot and things happen fast it's easy from the outside to say do this, but when picks start getting made shit changes
not really the point. let’s say sam and mahomes are on same level..i’d rather have that same guy plus 3 more 2R picks to help build a team. there has been little talent added via the draft. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
yes we could have drafted mahomes but hindsight is 20/20 he's also on a stacked offensive team talentwise (hunt, kelce, hill, watkins, a good o-line) and a poor defense so enters a lot of shootouts and has one of the best offensive minds in football in andy ried coaching him. i'm sorry but as good as mahomes looks this year, he isn't putting up those numbers if we drafted him and he was a jet. you can play the hindsight game in any draft to make any GM look bad
It's not hindsight for those if us who were banging the table for Mahomes when we needed a FQB. And he most certainly would not be putting up those numbers on this team with Bowles as his HC, but he would likely be at least as good as Sam and probably better, AND - most importantly - we would still have had all 4 2nd round picks, PLUS the 1st we used on Sam this year to get the much needed pass rusher or OL. I know you'll find a way to excuse all of this, but it was a MAJOR FAIL for Macc passing on Mahomes.
The Chiefs know that you need to score to win games in today's NFL. And they're putting Mahomes in a position to succeed. The Jets for a long time have tried to build a shut down defense when it's almost impossible to build one with the rules favoring the offense.
that's a fair statement but as we seen that defense will cost them in the playoffs. Why do you think the rams are still loading up on defense despite being undefeated and having the leagues best offense. same with the chiefs. both just made trades to bolster their defense. You really need a balanced team in the NFL but the jets have invested heavily on defense for many years now and it's time to invest in the offense. I mean the giants invested heavily in their offense. 100 mill dollar QB, 2nd overall pick RB, 100 mil for ODB (1st rounder), engram at TE (1st rounder) flowers (1st round LT), soldier (highest paid FA lineman this offseason), shepard (2nd rounder) and what do they have to show for it? they've drafted on their offense in the past 5 years or so in the 1st round a TE, LT, WR, RB as well as a 2nd rounder on a WR and paid 25 million a year for their 1st overall pick QB and their offense is worse then ours and their defense sucks. There really isn't a right or wrong way in the NFL and it's always changing. everyone has a different philosophy.
but again that's hindsight. obviously 9 other teams passed on mahomes, he wans't even the highest rated QB let alone the highest rated player in the draft. Adams was considered a steal at 6, while mahomes was considered a reach at 10. of course it worked out well for KC but even chicago took trubisky 2nd overall. rarely though is the top QB drafted the best in their class. less then half the time. which shows how much of a crapshoot it is. there is no telling how mahomes would perform here. i'd love to have a andy ried on offense but they don't fall off trees and he's helped mahomes a lot. I highly doubt mahomes is throwing up 6 TDs and 400 yards throwing to kearse tay, and peake against the bears D and our o-line. alex smith was great for them and he's the typical career journeyman just good enough QB. mahomes landed in a great position to be in for a QB there is no telling he would be as good here and plus all those other picks we had could easily be busts and it was 3 2nd rounders not 4 not that that means much, just saying
I can't see this team passing on Bosa if he's there when they pick - problem is you're thinking in today's terms. I'm more curious what the game plan is in FA ( before the draft ) with almost $100 million available. Where does Mac start ? Does he shore up the defense in FA as in adding a couple of the upper tier OLBs/ EDGE pass rushers along with maybe a guard or a second rate RB/WR while going OL heavy in the draft ? Does he sign Lavan Bell with a front loaded deal and still make a play for maybe one EDGE guy ? Does he load up on whatever offensive talent he can find in FA such as Bell, a decent WR, a top - tier guard and maybe a center and go hunting for a Bosa type in the draft ? It's going to be interesting ....I always seem to say that every year and then come FA time it usually ends with me being disappointed more often than not.....
yeah a lot depends on free agency. you never know who will be a cap casualty and who will be resigned. i'm hoping mac puts the money to good use so when we draft we don't have a lot of needs and can take some playmakers on offense
I have a hunch Bell is going to the Jets...if Mac is good at anything it's making contracts work so the player bites and it doesn't cripple the team's finances. I also wouldn't be surprised if he went WR in round one and tried to squeeze another year out of Beechum at LT ( being he is still under contract through 2019 ). I'm not saying that's what I'd like to see but after that Bears game.......sometimes performances like that can turn up the heat a little especially when trying to pacify a fan base.
No, it;s NOT hindsight. Several of us on this board were screaming for Mahomes, and not only did Macc not take him, he took TWO Safeties! Adams is doing fine, and Maye, when he's healthy is also, but I don't care how good a Safety is, he will never have the impact of a FQB. I don't really care what the "experts" were saying, The only "expert" that counts is your own GM. That he missed on this is squarely on him. And again, I acknowledged that Mahomes would almost certainly not produce like he's doing now if he were on this team. But I'm certain he would be at least as good as Sam, and likely better given his ability to move and make plays on the fly - a decided plus playing behind this OL and with the play calling that Bates is doing. Whether it was 3 or 4 (BTW that was simply a typo, but if you need to grasp at that to bolster your argument you don't have one) 2nd round picks that's still a lot of draft capital for a team in desperate need of it. Having passed on taking Mahomes, I credit Macc for having the balls to use those picks to trade up to get a FQB, but he could've avoided that had he done the smart thing the previous year. You want to excuse Macc's misses, fine, but it doesn't change the fact that they were misses.
As bad as Mike Mac has been, he's no Idzik. John Idzik is truly Rich Kotite of the GMs. https://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/07/looking_back_at_the_players_drafted_by_ex-jets_gm_1.html
