They sat Mahomes for a year, do you really really think that he would be the player he is now after sitting for a year at the Jets?
I think LaFleur is probably a bright offensive mind but the optics of hiring a HC from the 31st ranked offense is all bad. Carmichael is intriguing. Difillipo should be a candidate as well. I will be rooting for it to end badly for GB & NO this year just in case that would set McCarthy or Payton free.
Thanks! All good choices - meaning MUCH better than Bowles. At this point I lean towards Harbaugh, both for his success, and also that he's been an NFL HC and won't have to go through that learning curve. That said, I'm a little worried about his personality and ability to get along with people - we don't need any more drama. After Harbaugh, out of those listed I would probably lean towards: 2. Carmichael 3. LeFleur 4. Bieniemy 5. Cavanaugh As good as Riley may be, making the jump from leading a college program, where you're "god" to the pros where you're not is a major leap. Unless a guy has been an NFL HC before, I would pass.
He wouldn't be the player he is with Bow;es & Co in charge, but he still would've been very good. His physical tools and his instincts are off the charts. It was a big mistake for Macc to pass on him. Even though I love Darnold, getting Mahomes last year woud've saved having to use three #2 picks to move up to get Sam, and they could've also used their #1 on a pass rusher or OL this year.
I can see a case made for both keeping and firing Macc. At this point I lean towards keeping him, but I would really like to see them hire a Pres. of Football Ops to oversee Macc and give him the structure he needs to work in. Failing that, if the right candidate were available, I would replace him. He hasn't done enough to turn this ship around. To those who give him a pass for the first two years because "Woody demanded a 'win now' approach", I would say that Macc should've convinced Woody otherwise, and failing that, resigned. I understand why he wouldn't resign if he in fact didn't agree with Woody's dictate, but that doesn't excuse him from responsibility for carrying it out. In the end, when you look at his body of work it's "Meh". If the Jets really want to become a consistently winning franchise, they probably need to upgrade the GM spot in addition to the CS.
I agree that Mac probably needs to go with Bowles. There's only one thing in your post with which I have a disagreement, and it may just be a matter of semantics. Mac inherited a roster with little or no depth and a ton of holes. Rather than Mac creating or "delivering" us holes, I think he has failed to adequately fill many of those holes that he inherited.
Mac has not been "sub-Idzik" in his drafting. No one in the history of the NFL has been worse than Idzik.
I think fans would kill him cause of his conservativeness in certain situations, but I would take McCarthy. He can run the O, and has plenty of experience. No real other slam dunk hire out there.
It's been 4 years, that's really no excuse anymore. There have been other franchises that were awful and turned around it 1-2 seasons. He's had 4 drafts, and a better than average cap situation for most of his time here. If you got to replace his busts with roster contributors, you would have a solid foundation. He's yet to accomplish that in 4 seasons. After Leonard Williams his 1st draft here was terrible (I'm sure you know all this). In 2015, he took the same approach that he has taken the last 3 drafts, looking to find hidden potential . 2- Devin Smith - 1 year wonder at OSU (mostly in the playoffs), 3- Mauldin - had 1 decent year in the pros, 4- Petty was a system guy he took a shot on (and traded up for), 5- Jarvis Harrison - Gamble that this kid could get over his issues and become a great OL, 7- Deon Simon - Most blue collar pick of the bunch. So even in year 1, he was gambling on picks. Since he was new, I could almost forgive him for season 1. However, I can't get over seasons 2-4.
I agree that any of these could be good choices, and all are probably easily better than Bowles. We disagree with regards to order. I rank them in this order: 1. Harbaugh a big drop pff 2. LeFleur - I like that he's had the opportunity to learn from both McVay & Shanahan, & helped develop both Ryan & Cousins. another big drop off 3. Cavanaugh - He had a lot of short stints with various teams early in his career. Why? His success with the Ravens was mostly on the ground, and the D carried that team, but then he only had a game manager at QB. I like that he can scheme around talent deficiencies, which he would probably have to do with the Jets for a couple of years. I like that he's used quick hitting passes and passes to RBs. I don't like that he previously spent 4 years as OC under Rex Ryan and our offense wasn't that great, but then he had to deal with Sanchez at QB. Being a former QB and his experience working with QBs is a big plus, however. 4. Carmichael - what QB has he helped develop? I'm not sure that he "developed" Kamara. RB is the easiest position for a rookie to play, and Kamara was pretty NFL-ready at Tennessee. I do like his aggressiveness and balance in play calling, and the ways he uses TEs, however. I like that he's been with the Saints for a good while, so knows Payton's philosophy, but that didn't help Morton very much. 5. Bieniemy - I like that he's learning from Andy Reid, and I think Bieniemy could eventually be a great HC, but even though he's having great success with Mahomes and Hunt, I don't think that he's had enough experience. I'm also not sure that he had to do much developing of Mahomes and Hunt. Reid has probably had more to do with any development that Mahomes has done. I do like what he's doing in KC, but I think it may be a little premature for him, although the Jets may have to get someone like that and grow with him. 6. Riley - While I think that Riley probably needs another year or two as HC at the collegiate level, at least he's been a HC, so wouldn't be learning how to do that from scratch. It concerns me a little that he would probably scrap the WCO and go with the Air Raid Offense, but I still think he's a better option than Cavanaugh, and maybe Bieniemy and Carmichael. I think he does have a very innovative mind, his players love him, and he gets results. Is he a disciplinarian?
You missed my point. I agree that he has failed to fix the roster. My point was that he didn't create the holes. He has just failed for fix them. It was Tanny and Idzik that created the holes on the roster.
I gotcha, I'm saying that ship has sailed (or sank). My point was, he didn't do a good job filling holes from the start. On to the next one!
He's retiring for good I believe. At the very least, I don't think he'd retire and come back a few months later.
Well as I said in my post, I'm not "all in" on any of them, especially the guys who haven't been HCs before, and I can't quibble with your ranking vs. mine. I would need to do a lot more research before I did that. The one I do disagree on is Riley. Being a college HC is vastly different than being one in the pros, although it probably does provide some "executive" experience over that of someone who has only ever been a coordinator. And also what system would he install - you mention an "Air Raid" offense, which I don't believe would work in the NFL in its pure form, and if he were to try and modify it, it would be a "trial and error" effort that might take several years to produce results. As I said, at this point, based upon the list I would lean towards Harbaugh.
Maybe he can be President of Football Ops for a few years and tell us which coach and GM to hire. I know, I'm probably dreaming.
They could do what they did with Casselry a couple years ago, that would work for me! I always kind of hoped for Eric DeCosta, but he's getting the keys handed off to him.
