Jets sign Rishard Mathews

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Since no one else said it, I will. Championship!
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Kudos to the Vikings, but this was about the previous quote in which a user implied that Darnold never looked his way ever.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I bet the Titans miss him right now. Corey Davis their top draft pick ain't doing so hot. Matthews had 2 solid years with the Titans. He should be able to contribute right away for us.
     
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  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    He's got a catch rate of 60, 60 and 70 the last three years. Yes the numbers aren't the whole story because the higher the amount of targets, the harder it is to catch them all but in comparison:

    Quincy - 51, 55, 47
    Robby - 47, 55, 53
    Kearse - 63, 46, 72

    So he's probably our most sure-handed receiver at this point. For this time in the year, it's a very good signing. I'm never one to take the player's side when the player bitches about his team but I'm still baffled that Tennessee, with how terrible their O is, couldn't find a way to make him useful. Especially considering he had 118 catches for 1,740 yards and 13 TDs over the last two years for them.
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Shush, that didn't count as it was two games ago :rolleyes:
     
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    Not going to get too high off this signing, but it makes a ton of sense. Matthews wants to prove that he’s worth a big contract and can still play in this league. The Jets need receivers with hands that aren’t completely broken. Good player/team fit.

    Side Note. Matthews has been with Mariota since his sophomore campaign. And he’s looked serviceable during that timeframe. Based on this experience, maybe he’ll be a good fit here with Sam.
     
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    Yea I was more referring to the phrase that "he's a starter in the league". He's a number 3 or 4 type guy. Capable but nothing special.
     
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    This is a good signing,,,,it is a week or 2 late but it gives our boy someone to throw to. He cost nothing its good move,,,I would rather have this guy than Cooper for a # 1 pick
     
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  10. rockyusmc2003

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    Exactly. This WR corps is totally broken right now.

    Like him or not, Anderson is a 1 trick pony.
    Kearse is the most complete WR on the team, and that's not a great situation.
    Roberts has no business running routes. Stick to special teams.
    Peake should also stick to special teams.
    Burnett runs good routes and typically has glue for hands. Would like to see him get more time.

    Matthews automatically becomes at least the #3. Nothing wrong with that. Unlike Pryor, this dude actually runs the route tree and isn't afraid to lay out for a ball.

    PS- If they need another body. Maybe bring back Charles Johnson.
     
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    he's our 4th with enunwa healthy (anderson, kearse, enunwa) he has experiance and has had a couple of good seasons and a lot better then tay, peake, and roberts so a good move for us at this point
     
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    This day and age I just count the top 3 receivers as starting.
     
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    I'd put him over Anderson. Way more of an all-around receiver. Anderson will probably have bigger impact plays but I think Matthews is better than him honestly.
     
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    "Healthy"....Sadly, Enunwa's physical "big" style of play is catching up with him and the injuries are starting to pile up. I think he's a good player, but there was something up with him before this latest injury. He went from being the most sure handed WR on the squad to dropping multiple passes in recent weeks. It's possible he's ailing from more than just a high ankle sprain, and this summer's thumb injury has come back.
     
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    I'm no mathematician, but it was like 20 games ago.

    :confused:
     
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    Ya forgive me, I forgot how the Colts game represented the whole season so far. How could I suggest Kearse, our best possession receiver, wasn't getting the looks this year? He has been a major part of the offense.

    We wanted receiver help and we got it. We should be happy with Mathews until he proves otherwise.
     
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    9 catches vs indy think a bunch of them were screens but on the other hands hes only had 7 receptions total across 6 other games.

    The Darnold Kearse connection has been terrible overall and barely targets him but when he does 80% of the time the timing is horrible between them.
    Whatever it is I hope they get it worked out Kearse is a good weapon going to waste.
     
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    Kearse, wasn't healthy to start the year. Colts game, bunch of them weren't screens. Check out the throws from that game again.

    https://www.newyorkjets.com/video/sam-darnold-s-best-throws-vs-colts

    BTW Bradford?
     
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    1 game or 3 games, the point is you said just cant seem to EVER find him, which is false. Kearse, got shutdown last week. Perhaps the OC could have found better ways to get him involved. Hopefully Matthews contributes.
     
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    Here's an interesting take.

    https://titansized.com/2018/09/07/rishard-matthews-will-titans-leading-receiver-2018/

    Despite many people projecting a breakout campaign from Corey Davis, it’s likely that Rishard Matthews will be the Tennessee Titans’ leading receiver in 2018.

    As a small market team, the Tennessee Titans are used to being overlooked by the national media. Players such as Jurrell Casey, Taylor Lewan, and Kevin Byard perform at elite levels with barely a mention from the national media. But, while Titans fans are quick to point out the lack of attention on a national level, they are sometimes guilty of overlooking the contributions of one of their own players. A great example of this is WR Rishard Matthews, who has been quietly impressive during his two seasons in Nashville, with little recognition from fans.

    Since Matthews arrived in Nashville it seemed as if his role was set: an promising player on a good contract who could develop into a solid #2 WR. This role was further cemented when the Titans drafted Corey Davis with the 5th overall pick; it was only a matter of time before he fulfilled his destiny as a true #1 WR. And while Davis should improve greatly on a forgettable 2017 season, I still doubt he will eclipse Matthews as the #1 WR in 2018. The reason being that Matthews is incredibly productive and has an established relationship with QB Marcus Mariota.

    I doubt many fans realize how productive Matthews he has been in relation to the rest of the league. He is one of only 22 WRs to have more than 750 receiving yards in each of the past two seasons. In 2017, he was 16th in the league in terms of yards per reception among WRs, averaging 15 yards a catch. Not too shabby for a player who is often knocked by fans for being too slow and unable to create separation. He also makes the most of his targets; his yards/target of 9.14 was 14th among WRs with 40 targets or more. He also should get credit for improving in his 2nd year wearing two-tone blue, as his Y/R in 2016 was 14.54 and his Y/Tgt was 8.75.

    Interestingly, his target rate actually dropped in 2017. After finishing the 2016 season with 108 targets, his target total in 2017 was 87. Even when factoring the 2 games he missed (he played all 16 in 2016), he still saw an 8% drop in targets. Obviously the additions of Eric Decker and Corey Davis played a role in this, but TE Delanie Walker also saw an 8% target increase from 2016 to 2017.

    Walker and Davis are the Titans top 2 returning receivers outside of Matthews, and their productivity pales in comparison to Matthews. Delanie Walker averaged 7.27 yards per target, while Corey Davis had a measly 5.77 yards per target. It makes you think – why wasn’t Matthews targeted more last season? He only averaged 0.3 targets/game more than Davis (despite being much more productive), and 0.7 less per game than Walker. The Titans were most likely looking to get their promising rookie game reps, but it might have been to the detriment of the team.

    But I think there will be a shift in 2018: I predict that Matthews will receive the most targets on the team this season. Why? A couple of reasons. First, I think that we will see a substantial drop in Delanie Walker’s targets. LaFleur’s offense does not figure to have a TE as the focal point of the passing game like Mularkey’s offense did. The last time a team LaFleur coached for had a TE eclipse 90 targets was the 2010 Redskins. Then again, LaFleur probably hasn’t had a TE as talented as Delanie before. But I think Walker ends up getting around 85 targets instead of the 111 he got in 2017.

    When comparing the Titans to the Rams 2017, Matthews will most likely play the Robert Woods role. Woods averaged the most targets per game out of any WR on the team, and he had the highest Y/R. Since we haven’t seen the full offense in motion yet, we can only speculate as to what the scheme will actually look like. But Woods and Matthews have very similar skill-sets and measurables, so it is an educated guess that LaFleur will use Matthews similarly.

    The Y/Target gap between Matthews and Davis highlights the relationship differences between the WRs and their QB. That isn’t to put all the blame on Davis; the QB-WR relationship is a two-way street, and Mariota provided Davis with a low percentage of accurate passes. I do think that relationship will improve over the year, but the task of learning a new offense may slow the process. Mariota and Matthews (and Walker) already have an established relationship, and QBs tend to fall back on their trusted targets when things aren’t clicking with their other options.

    The purpose of this post wasn’t to slight Davis or Walker in any way, but to prop up Matthews. He is always productive when given the opportunity, and I believe that LaFleur will utilize him more than the previous regime. The rapport between him and Mariota will give him a leg up on Davis for the early stages of the season, and I think that Matthews finishes the season with the most targets of any receiver. When you factor in how he has been the Titans most productive receiver the past two seasons, I think all signs point to him being the Titans leading receiver in 2018.

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