It looks like "yards" is limited to passing - can you add rushing yards which are a pretty good indicator of diversity?
I'm actually of the opposite opinion on that. I don't want to see anything except rate stats and maybe a handful of cumulatives in reviewing passers. I'm tired of having to make up reasons to accept a QB's lackluster ability to actually throw the ball in the NFL. It's why I've been hating on Trubisky and Allen to start this season. The ability to run is cool and all, especially when it's stacked on top of elite throwing ability (Rapelisburger, Rodgers, etc), but when it's used as a meaningful piece of a QB's value, or when a guy is winning games with his legs but posting questionable passing numbers, I'm reeeeallly skeptical about that his true value.
Are you saying the ability to extend a play, get a first down, maintain possession doesn't matter unless the guy does it with his arm? I want to see everything that indicates the guy's total performance.
Yeah I'll add rushing yards. I agree, extending plays and getting first downs often comes from a QBs legs. Will update now
I'm in love with with the kid, so I don't want to see the stats for * batted passes * adjusted interceptions (includes dropped picks). Don't add those, Falco.
Lol! Negative stats are essential to properly analyze a player. I believe that 1000%. But I'm also trying to keep it somewhat limited so it is easier to read for people and so I don't have to break my head every week putting together all of the numbers hahaha!
I agree with looking at a wholistic picture, but for me personally I want the best quarterback at this point. I'm tired of talking myself into lesser prospects and veterans because of traits outside of pure passing. Sanchez, Favre, Fitzpatrick, etc all had high points while winning where we generally talked past their glaring flaws (inaccuracy, terrible ball placement, recklessness, poor decision making) in favor of traits that were leading to these bursts of wins (mobility, creativity, fearlessness). If both guys are comparable passers, then obviously go with the more mobile as a tie-breaker, but after decades of following average to poor passing QBs on the whole, I just want a guy who is an elite passer first and foremost. Accuracy, chunk yards, pre snap reads, decision making. That wins week to week and year to year, for an entire career. Josh Allen's athleticism giving him a higher YPC than YPA is not an encouraging thing in any way to me despite it leading to a couple of victories. For the record I'm not arguing with you or saying you're wrong in any way. I'm just posting my frustration with years of prospects and vets who have secondary and tertiary skills as cornerstones of their QBing. Rate stats told us Sanchez wasn't the one, and was likely trash, but because of youth, athleticism, and pedigree (along with a defense that won games) we talked ourselves into it for a few years. I just want a guy who can legitimately force an offense through a defense with his brain and arm alone. If he can run and/or extend plays on top of that (like Darnold can), then even better. But I want a guy who has opposing fans saying "oh god, we scored too soon, we gave ______ too much time" late in games. Like all of us, I'm really hoping it's Darnold!
I completely agree with the qualities you value in a FQB. That said, in whatever stats Falco provides you can choose to focus on the ones that are most meaningful to you and ignore the rest, right? Consider for example, that even possessing the best arm probably in the NFL right now, Mahomes is most dangerous because he can extend plays in order to use that arm, so in his case, "running ability" is a key measure. Whereas, a QB who runs a lot but doesn't possess good passing skills (Comp %, etc.) like a Cam Newton, the "running ability" skews his value as a QB. But in any case, you can distinguish between the two.
Something happened on that throw. Either he got knocked or his arm got hit, but that ball was thrown like a dead duck. That did not look like he intentionally put the ball there
Truly I'll never understand what went through Beane's head when he decided to draft Josh Allen instead of Josh Rosen. Like, I'm pretty sure they studied both's tape, what in the name of God did he see in Allen's play? The only thing Allen is better at than Rosen is arm strength, his accuracy is atrocious, Hackenberg's completion % at Penn State was 56.1, Allen's? 56.2, Brandon Beane's blind I think. Having said that, I'm really happy they did, I mean, a divisional rival drafting the wrong QB when they had right there a really good one? It just added a bit of excitement that day.
I agree with you, but many people had Allen over Rosen on their board. It wasn't a shocker when Allen was taken over Rosen. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but coming out of college, Allen was a highly praised prospect
When Sam drops back to pass I'm excited, rather than fearful like I have been with so many Jets QBs over the years.
Most important stat for me: 0 Fumbles Lost. For me that was the biggest red flag coming out of USC and he has shown any sign of this being an issue. Knock on wood, but so far so good.
Totally agree with what you wrote, but a slight disagreement about the bolded - I am with you with his "running ability" being a key measure, I just don't think that it's measured appropriately by the numbers being used in this case - raw rushing yards/YPC. If he's able to "extend plays in order to use that arm" that means he's getting 0 rushing yards in those instances. Roethlisberger, who is the king of extending plays with his running ability, had 47 rushing yards total last year. We're definitely in the same boat on the whole though. Mahomes rate stats and cumulative passing numbers are all absolutely outstanding. That he uses his legs to help achieve them is secondary to me because all that matters for me is that he's posting elite stats through the air. It's not about him creating value directly with his running (rushing yards), it's about him creating value with his running by enabling his passing to be even better - and in that case I don't think QB rushing yards mean anything of significance. I promise I'm not trying to make an argument about semantics, I just don't think there's much to be gained by looking at QB rushing yards (and like you said I can just move past them as this post is updated).
He is progressing at a faster rate then the rest of the bunch , he looks the most ready and able currently
This is so true and something I keep repeating every game. When Mark Sanchez, Fitzpatrick, and Geno Smith dropped back to pass, I held my breath, praying for a completion and a positive gain. It is such a relief to watch Darnold and feel so confident in his pass attempts. I also noticed, every interception he's thrown, except the first 1 or 2, I caught myself saying "he'll erase that quickly". It's remarkable how he can fail and just flush it and come back firing. Playing sports my whole life when I was younger, I was always told to flush the bad down the toilet and get out there and succeed the second time. It was always easier said than done. This kid doesn't have that issue. At all
