#FireBowles

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Takes a spot away from someone who deserves to be there
     
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  2. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Like... Tebow?

    There’s always someone at the bottom of the 90 that’s a special case.

    Let it go.
     
  3. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    A one win team? Where did you get that? What I saw was a guy who took a ten win team and made it a five win team. And he did it twice!
     
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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Defensive Coordinator at Wisconsin, his alma mater.
     
  5. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    One, its been 3 years, why cant people get this straight? And Chris has been here a year, nothing he has done IMO puts him in a negative light. Up to now. LOL Who said they shouldnt be under the gun. Ive said it over and over.

    This fanbase is delusional. We went to the playoffs something like 7 of 11 years and they were bitching about Woody when only a handful of teams did it.

    Bowles has had players develop others dont. Sometimes its on the players. Load up with a lot of young players some are what they are. You dont think Williams, Anderson, Enunwa, Kearse, Jenkins, Adams, Maye and others etc have developed?

    Have no idea what youre trying to say about kids misbehaving and underachieving being rewarded. For one Bowles teams have overachieved 2 of the 3 seasons hes been here. Can we at least get that right? Where do we get the underachieving idea? You expected 11 or more wins in year 1? 6 or more wins last year? Youre optimistic. Yes, most fans and every so called expert had us winning 1-3 games. I act like a realist who is looking at what they were supposed to be. Not rewriting history to make my anti Bowles rant. Im not getting the point. On one side of your argument you argue they underachieve out of the other than they only overachieved a little. Which is it? We all know if were being honest. If he continues ther trend all youtr dreams will crumble, he isnt going

    My favorite part. I bet you have no idea what pain Ive endured as a Jets fan. I bet you would never trade to walk in my shoes. This line is always funny to me since Ive sat in my seats in Shea, GS and ML since 1977. Try again. Not that seniority would make you right anyway. Because for the life of me I cant figure out why when I say that I HOPE DO WELL, IMPROVE ENOUGH TO HAVE PEOPLE KEEP THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THAT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ORGANIZATION it makes a certain group of fans want to take someone to task. Its more fun to lose and make their arguments right than to win.
     
  6. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Yes, one win. 3 at most. Sorry it doesnt fit your argument.

    Which twisted bit of logic are you spewing, that they were a 10 win team last year that underperformed into a 5 win team or that they were the same Jets team as the one that overachieved to 10 wins two years before?????? Both say you have no idea what you are talking about. Or saw.
     
  7. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Outperforming the predictions does absolutely nothing for the team. If you listen to Bowles own words that his goal is to get to the Super Bowl, everything else is secondary. Mind you his own words, so I will say they vastly underperformed and underachieved. The team has not progressed.
     
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  8. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    More like 6 in 18 years. Woody bought the team in 2000. Playoffs in 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2010. This is the longest playoff drought in Jets history. I think the fans are not delusional and just frustrated.
     
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    But that's simply a fiction. The Jets were predicted to win about five games. You may get away with kidding yourself that they were only supposed to win one game, or even three, but you can't fool everybody else. There was no magic - they did what they were supposed to do, according to the real experts - those who put their money where their mouths are. You may prefer to listen to those who make ridiculous forecasts just to make ridiculous forecasts, but don't pretend that they base anything on reality.

    Spin it any way you like. The jets won ten games and the following year they won five. Then they repeated by winning five again. Those are facts. You can't change them.
     
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  10. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    WTF does any of this have to do with anything I said? I didnt say they did the bestest job ever or that they were so damn good that we should be perfectly happy and expect nothing more. I said that outperforming better than predictions makes all the claims that they underperformed into total nonsense.
     
  11. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Again, reading is fundamental. I said they went through a period of playoffs in a time frame and fans bitched and moan while only a handful of teams could say the same. Have no idea why you cant stick to a topic.
     
  12. LF911SC

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    Youre full of it. No one predicted 5 wins. ESPN had them 3 or fewer depending on the so called expert. Most had us vying for the number one pick in the draft. No one had us 6th. Your making shit up to protect your story. Im kidding no one, Kidding you is the last thing im worried about. You have yourself fooled. Whatever you want to believe. I really dont care, I know what went on. Last year and in year 1, another year that has you confused apparently.
     
  13. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I did maybe you should. Try reading the BOLD letter again because you stated 7 of 11. Your post and your comment. Maybe you need a visual as 2nd grade was hard for you 3 times. I notice you only posted your reply and not the entire context. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/playoffs.htm. Link for the people who aren't disingenuous liars.
     
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  14. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    What a sensitive pussy you are. You just can't stand a debate of your own stupid posts. No one lives in your warp brain but you. How was anyone to know that you uses the so called expect at ESPN. There are numerous pundits that had the record at different numbers. That is just a fact. Unless you are on TV no one knows what number the Great Kreskin picked. Take a drink or get laid. Nobody has time for your rants.
     
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    There's your problem right there - you don't know what an expert is. Writers are paid to attract eyeballs. Whether the target is a written page, a television show or a webpage, the guys are paid to attract, and keep attention. They don't get evaluated on the accuracy of their predictions.

    Experts, in this case, are guys who are paid based on how much money they directly make for their employers or themselves by collecting money from bettors - the guys who set the odds. Last year, depending on the source, the Jets were forecast on most books to win four or four and a half games, a few hit five exactly.

    They "outperformed" by nothing to a whole game. Great. Without a coaching change Jets fans are doomed to wander through NFL mediocrity forever.
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Well U R a rookie compared to me since I became a STer in 1965 and gave them up in 2016 as I deemed not worthy for me to pay over 1G a seat and can find far, far better ways to spend my money on then the NYJs. :mad:
     
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    sec314 Well-Known Member

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    No doubt it’s put up or shut up time for head coach. I thought last year was the first time a Bowles team look prepared week in and week out. I am still not happy with his game management and deminer on the sideline but I have sensed a different attitude on the sideline so let’s hope it’s real. I want to see a smart aggressive coaching style and him get in someone’s face on the sideline if they fuck up. Hes from the parcells coaching tree so how bout showing it Todd !!!!
     
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  18. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Guys. Try not to make this personal. I kindly ask. Thanks.
     
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    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    What a sensitive pussy you are. You just can't stand a debate of your own stupid posts. No one lives in your warp brain but you. How was anyone to know that you uses the so called expect at ESPN. There are numerous pundits that had the record at different numbers. That is just a fact. Unless you are on TV no one knows what number the Great Kreskin picked. Take a drink or get laid. Nobody has time for your rants.

    Needed to escalate it into a name calling contest because YOU DONT AGREE with me that they won more games a year ago as just about everyone predicted. And my brain has a problem debating facts? I can find tons of articles saying just that, but you either cant find anything to dispute what I said or just think being negative in every post and calling me a pussy is much easier. Get laid? No one has time for my rants? Then why do you keep responding when you dont even have anything to say?
     
  20. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Youre not allowed to say that someone is full of it? Why exactly, it isnt an attack, isnt bullying, isnt derogatory, not insulting and easily didnt insight anyone to the point of calling me a pussy. He has a problem with me saying that most perdicted we would lose more than we did a year ago and thats reason to call me a sensitive pussy and I get a warning for getting personal? Thats wrong @Brook!, I've been going out of my way to not escalate name calling aimed at me.
     
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