A lot to back read since last night, but I’m going to assume that none of the “the Jets are dumb, they could have gotten more if they waited“ people have actually answered the question I’ve been trying to ask. I’ll try again, other than Bradford when was the last time a team gave up more than a third round pick because their starter went down mid season?
The best we could’ve hoped for in season if a QB of a contending team went down would’ve been a 2nd. Definitely don’t think it would’ve been smart to hope for that outcome when a 3rd was staring us in the face right now. Mac essentially spent 1mil for a 3rd rd pick and for a rebuilding team that is out a couple picks from previous trade up that is pure brilliance. Great job Mac and hoping for the best for Teddy B going forward.
Palmer was an extremely weird situation where he demanded to be traded, then retired when the Bengals wouldn't trade him. He was a bona fide starter in the league, not a backup that was hanging out. But ok, the Raiders traded for him after Campbell went down, I'll give it to you.. Who did the Niners lose when they went after Garappolo? No one. They made a deal for a QB that was going to be a free agent and they needed to lock up before he hit the market. So we have Palmer in 2011 and Bradford in 2016. Two examples in a god-only-knows-how-many year span. You were ready to say no thanks to a third round pick in hopes that a team came calling with more because their starter went down? Those are some pretty terrible odds that I'm glad our GM didn't take. Now take into account that Teddy hasn't played meaningful football in 2 years and was mediocre at best before his almost career-ending injury. Even shittier odds. Bottom line: this was 100% the right move and if you're bashing it, you're looking for reasons to complain.
Why are you so stuck on this scenario with midseason? Also, who can possibly predict what will happen 2-3-4 games down the road? And besides that, how many times have there been where a team (like the Jets) were able to dangle a legitimate #1 starting QB with the credentials that TB has? If your question is based on a QB fitting the right system, that team being desperate enough that needs one, can make the adjustments. If it was me , I would have started TB and let Sam carry the clipboard for a few games. This is where the questions have always come up regarding the way the Jets break in rookie QB's. Is history repeating itself here? Bedsides , my main argument was why bother even trading TB for a 3rd round pick? If they had traded him fro a starting OL lineman, I could have easily lived with it. And they could have easily. Mac bungled this move. And I'm not even sure TB is happy with this now that he has to play behind Drew Brees, but that's another topic.
In a perfect world, I would've liked to of kept Teddy, but in reality, he wasn't staying here at the end of the season. I also wouldve expected something better in compensation than what they got, but I guess it's better to take something guaranteed now..... than just hold on HOPING that you may get more (which could also leave you with nothing) Overall good moves by Mac. I hope he starts handling the draft as well as free agency (sans the 2015 season which I'm sure came with some marching orders from the top)
you asked a question... I answered it. Anyway, I only was working off the top of my head from the past handful of years. So I'm not entirely sure "god-only-knows-how-many-year span" is accurate. My research and your research both wasn't that in-depth. But it is possible to look it up without divine intervention.
That may be, but how long did the starters actually play? It would be one thing if they played the entire game and those were the stats. But for a quarter or half, or whatever it was, those stats are not nearly as good.
Yes, I know that Sam has those qualities and I not only have high hopes for him, I expect that he will develop into a very, very good QB for the Jets, if not a great one. That said, it will only take one moment, one time of hesitant indecision for Sam to have his career wrecked. Sam is mobile, he is poised, can slide, and throws the ball away, but he still hasn't seen those more complex and exotic alignments that DCs throw at rookie QBs. Even if he doesn't get hurt, if he's having to throw the ball away a lot of the time he drops back, he's going to be practically useless. He's going to have to learn a LOT, very, VERY quickly, and even then, the OL is going to have to be better than we think. The point isn't that we still have a quality backup. The point is that we don't want Sam getting hurt, period.
Can you elaborate on that , i dont understand what you mean and im not being sarcastic just want you to elaborate your tought.
Maybe I wrote it wrong but I was implying that he realized his trade up to #3 had worked and he was able to snag his guy he had always hoped for once Cleveland passed on him
We agree on some points and disagree on others. IMO there's no way that Sam is as quick/fast as Teddy. Teddy is more elusive, Sam is a bigger, slower-moving target and will be easier for opposing rushers to hit. Sam should be able to take the big hits better than Teddy, however. I also know that in general or at least so far, Sam has been smart. He makes quick decisions, gets the ball out quickly, throws it away, runs, slides, etc., but it will only take one moment of indecision from some strange alignment he hasn't seen before or a blown assignment by one of our OL for Sam to get hurt. It may not happen, and hopefully won't, but it definitely could, and imo it's just not worth taking that chance now that we finally have a real FQB prospect. Even though I'd rather never see McCown on the field for the Jets again, I'd rather see him start the first 3-4 games, let Sam have a chance to watch and study some of those defensive looks/alignments, give the OL a chance to gel, then start Sam to give him every chance to stay healthy and succeed.
