How so? What would you have done differently? I think it was a great move by Maccagnan. I believe all along (After Sam was taken #3 overall) they had a deal with Teddy that they would move him to the best place available. It was low risk, high reward for the Jets and they got that reward in a 3rd round pick. Teddy was able to get healthy and put his career back on track with the Jets. Win-win for everyone. Including the Saints, who get a talented back-up QB who could potentially replace Brees in the future and step in this year if he gets injured.
One component missing is the JETS brass trying to sell tickets.... Cause if you're telling me that starting a 21 year old over 2 seasoned vets, one of which played better than him with No Protection and yet he is STILL named the starter? This wreaks of ownership. and ftr, I want this to all work out, I'm just questioning the reasons for pulling the trigger this quickly.
I'll agree Teddy has seen more coverages and has an advantage there, I have posted the same numerous times, but I think Darnold is just as mobile and much more likely to be able to absorb a big hit than Teddy. Darnold's a rookie and is going to make rookie mistakes but he has shown that he knows when to get down and when to get rid of the ball so I don't think your point about him holding onto the ball to long or his not being able to decide what to do with the ball is valid.
Bridgewater has more experience no doubt about that. However Darnold seems to have great pocket presence and internal clock. He feels the rush while keeping his eyes downfield. He doesn't just stand there oblivious to everything going on around him like Sanchez and Geno. He knows when to step up, slide to one direction or the other. And when he takes off he knows when to slide. With how quickly he picks up concepts I don't see him being a sitting duck back there. And if god forbid something does happen we have McCown who is an savvy, experienced backup
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger etc and countless of others have all been bigger targets than Teddy... and they've seemed to do a pretty decent job too, no? And mostly all of the H.O.F greats are bigger in size than Teddy, no? Which goes to show your argument or theory, holds no weight behind it. And give me a break about Teddy having seen more "complex defenses", "disguised coverages" and "exotic blitzes" and/or how Darnold will struggle once finally seeing them. You mean, kind of like how Teddy Bridgewater (himself) struggled once he actually faced complex defenses, exotic blitz packages and disguised coverages? Do you not know that Teddy only went 0-1 during the playoffs? Do you not understand that Bridgewater could only dink & dunk against Seattle and did not have the physical ability nor the mental capacity to be able to beat their exotic and complex defense? Stop acting as if Teddy didn't only throw for 146 yards and 0 TD's along with 3 runs for 0 yards and took 3 sacks for -21 yards all while he lost to Seattle by the score of 10-9 all because he failed to lead his offense into the End Zone (3 FG's) all while Minnesota did everything in their powers in order to advance and gave their QB in Teddy a fighting chance. But Teddy failed. And just like Teddy Bridgewater himself, Sam Darnold deserves an opportunity to learn and grow from failure as well.
And Teddy being "more elusive" that Darnold is an absolute farce. Teddy Bridgewater in college had 226 rushing attempts for 170 rushing yards (an average of 0.8 yards per scramble). Sam Darnold in college had 137 rushing attempts for 332 rushing yards (an average of 2.4 yards per scramble). And in the NFL Teddy has a career 94 rushes for 398 yards and an average of 4.2 yards per scramble in comparison to Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown who have averages of 4.6 (Fitz) and 4.5 (McCown) yards per scramble. Let's not sit here and make Teddy out to be some type of dual threat in which he's never been with super power escape ability due to his imaginary "elusiveness". Sam Darnold's pocket awareness is second to none amongst the history of rookie QB's drafted and he's also a former H.S Linebacker who plays the QB position with a certain type of toughness.
Unless Mac needs the extra pick to complete a trade he may have in the works. It would then make sense.
I think we're going for Fowler. Reports had it as of last week that the Jets were inquiring about Fowler Jr. I'd imagine an extra 3rd is more fitting for a player of Fowler's caliber rather than that of Khalil Mack. Although I could be wrong and Maccagnan could wait to move on draft day back up into the 2nd round with two 3's. Either way it'll be intriguing for us to see how Maccagnan utilizes this additional 3rd round pick.
I could see Fowler for the Saints 3rd if he negotiates an extension. I could see the Jets 1 and 2 thirds for Mack too Alot to give up considering the roster holes but we're not drafting a player of Mack's caliber next season. Not sure what it is but I think Mac has something in the works.
I believe New Orleans will get Bridgewater to renegotiate into a two or three year deal based on a low base and high incentives. Maybe not immediately but before the season runs its course and he's ready to be a free agent. That would have been my preference with him here and would have made him more valuable in the trade with little to no additional expense.
Well that's the thing man. Your preference Railbird just isn't the reality of either the Jets or Saints. Darnold is on the verge of becoming the youngest Quarterback to ever start a game while Dres Brees is 39 with one or two seasons left in the tank, max. If we wanted to keep Teddy "long term" then we would have passed on Sam Darnold for either of Quenton Nelson or Bradley Chubb in order to improve either our O-Line or pass rush. But no, Teddy Bridgewater was never a realistic option for our Jets, long term. And if New Orleans fails to lock up Teddy Bridgewater long term well then Maccagnan and our Jets just fleeced the Saints of their 3rd round pick...
None? Second to NONE? He's the absolute best "rookie QB" ever drafted since 1936 in the entire NFL? (What kind of QB's get drafted other than rookies anyway?) Perhaps you should take a bit of time to recenter before going forward here, or at least provide some basis for such a proclamation. I also find very little, or no, reason to believe a bit of linebacker activity as a kid in high school is going to have any appreciable influence on his performnce as an NFL quarterback. Try sticking at least a bit closer to demonstrable facts before you lose all signs of credibility.
Nowhere, no place, no time did I state, imply or even mildly hint that either the Saints or the Jets would have looked to Bridgewater as a "long term'' (since when is two or three years long term?) championship quarterback. Where did you get that? Is that your "reality?" But he was here and is now in New Orleans as a more capable backup and, as his name indicates, a Bridge to each team's future. This is not about Darnold, it is not about Brees, and certainly not about linemen on either side of the ball (where do you get this stuff?) - it is about the reality that things in the NFL rarely go as planned and teams need viable backups, sometimes for a game or two and sometimes for the rest of the season. Since you brought up Darnold, however, how will this trade look if Darnold misses half the season, who will step in? Or, how will it look if Brees does and Bridgewater takes the Saints through the playoffs? The balance of which team got the better deal will have shifted mightily either way than from accepting the presumption that both Brees and Darnold play every down for their teams until their seasons are done.
Sam named starter thread gets to 3 pages where this one is already 17, proving that Jet fans still love nothing more than talking about backup QBs.
how is signing a free agent and getting a 3rd round pick for it in the same year and not eating their salary cap a bad decision basically he got a 3rd round pick for having an arm in training camp and preseason games.
I don’t see teddy signing anywhere before free agency next year. He wants to have a chance to start and that isn’t with the saints.
One thing I noticed immediately about this whole situation; the Jets are in a fantastic place at a position that they have struggled with for decades. In any other year, Teddy Bridgewater would have been our guy. We would have been taking a huge gamble on him being our franchise guy in hopes his knee doesn't blow out again. We would be playing every week on pins and needles still wondering if Teddy is the long term answer only 1 year removed from a catastrophic knee injury. But here we are today, August 30, 2018, and we just traded him away for a 3rd round pick. Why? Because we did it right, for the first time in a very long time. Mac took a gamble signing him trusting the process of drafting a franchise QB. As soon as he saw Darnold fall from Cleveland, he knew he had his chance and traded up to snag him. He know built a QB room with Teddy Bridgewater, Josh McCown, and Sam Darnold. Extremely high hopes for Darnold. Trade bait with Bridgewater. And a great mentor in McCown. Darnold develops at en extremely fast rate as a rookie and wins the starting job. Mac trades Teddy and gets a big return for him. What does all of this say? Mac put the Jets organization in an amazing position to finally have a franchise QB. We would have never traded Teddy away in years past. This year feels very different
