Using tackles as an indicator of playing well is folly at best, but I would expect little else from you.
I didn’t read this whole post but what I read is garbage. No one attacked Vilma for not fitting manginis 3-4 . Almost everyone was disappointed Mancini couldn’t make him work somehow. And Robertson was miscast as a nt though he did have good production as a 3t in Edwards Tampa 2. He was a mistake based on his knee and what we gave up for him. Revisionist history by you to try to circle around to some point that’s more likely way off base and barely related to the actual topic of this thread.
yup. until they bench Lee, it isn't going to matter if you have fancy high draft pick safeties or really expensive corners or highly touted defensive lineman... the defense will always be mismatched because teams will take advantage of Sharon Lee. the sooner they learn this the better
We all have high hopes for him. However, "football 101" reveals that when Lee needs to shed a block he's all-too-often washed out (and in space it's been even worse). Soft? The punt return vs. Washington was "bail after contact" poor. Granted his straight line speed will get him some tackles for loss and QB pressures when unblocked. Again, we all have high hopes for him but if you want to make the case that he hasn't been a liability for the weakest unit on the team (OLB), who hasn't been playing soft and who hasn't been caught out of position all too often then be my guest. If he'd compensate more in coverage that would be one thing but for now that doesn't look too encouraging either. Everybody doesn't like something, but nobody's doesn't fear Darron Lee (hit-wise). .
I was talking about LBs in coverage. Its every OC and QBs dream. No matter the LB. I get his limitations
exactly. sure lee hans't become a pro bowler but it was a weak draft obviously and he's been one of the top players out of that draft so not sure why people are complaining so much about him
Yea he was awful and slow as molasses during the end of his overrated career. Bart Scott would have been exposed early on if thrown into the NFL fire coming out of Southern Illinois if not for... A.) Having the privilege to learn and develop as a Full-Time backup during his first 3 years in Baltimore. B.) Followed by being blessed to play alongside the greatest IMLB of All-Time from his 4th year on in Ray Lewis. C.) Lucky enough to play behind a 5x Pro Bowler and 2x All-Pro of a 3-4 NT in Haloti Ngata. D.) All while being protected by an All-Time great of NFL FS in Ed freaking Reed on the back end. Only 1 Pro Bowl trip to Honolulu and only 1 Second-team All-Pro selection (both in 2006) despite being in the league for 11 years? lol He's an overrated Jag and now a media coward who attacks younger players in order to feel better about himself and his overrated career. Bart Scott hid behind the likes of Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata & Ed Reed. Those guys literally made Bart Scott into the talking tool in whom he is today.
Thank you! Would we all be better off if we drafted Paxton Lynch? Hell no. Weak draft and Lee is still young and extremely gifted. He’s been up and down in the preseason. Let’s check back week 5 to see if he’s improved or not.
Here’s the deal. He went right about where he was supposed to go, maybe even a bit later, there was no one within the next 10 pics (at least, and I’m not googling it) that was more worthy of the 20 pick, so questioning where he was drafted is 20-20 hindsight of the highest order, he clearly hasn’t lit the world on fire so if folks were expecting that are going to criticize him (which is fine but IMHO unwarranted), he’s a tad light for the position and gets pushed around a lot but he’s still very fast, athletic and if he improves on his angles and gains some weight/strength he could still be a top LB. I could see him being a 10 starter for us. Not a superstar but a solid starter. Not expecting anything more.
that's not the deal at all. Lee was expected to be gone before the jets picked. They were surprised he still wasn't drafted and took him. here are a few mocks https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-d...ck-draft-jared-goff-carson-wentz-paxton-lynch Lee at 14 https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/27/nfl-mock-draft-first-round-expert-picks 4 people in that 2 have him taken at 17 the other 2 after the jets pick https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2016/ another one with lee at 17 there are 4 mock drafts that had him going before the jets pick i agree with your feelings though. He isn't a pro bowler but you can't have a pro bowler at every position. he's still been a good starting LBer for us from day 1 which is more that could be said of our other options in that draft
Bart Scott wasn't even the best LB on his team back in 2009. Davis Harris was and was just entering the prime of his career while #24 Revis was All-World. Bart Scott was decent and had a nice "can't wait" quote but other than that has never been anything to really write home about. And my God was he down right pitiful, horrible and embarrassing to watch during his final two seasons of 2011 & 2012. He played with zero heart throughout those two shameful years. I don't know why he questioned Darron Lee's "heart" when his own heart should be in question. He was only able to start for 8 years and retired at the age of only 32 and played like a pile of dog shit while breaking down during his final two seasons of NFL play when in comparison to his longtime teammate in Ray Lewis who (actually) had the heart to play for 17 years and retired at the old age of 37). Ray Lewis had the heart to last for 17 years and the heart who wouldn't allow himself to walk away from the game. Bart Scott on the other hand QUIT and walked away from the game as soon as things began to go south. Bart Scott either did a horrible job of taking care of his body (lazy work ethic) or simply lacked heart.
Here is one of his posts from 2011 (Same poster, under a couple of his multiple aliases) Here's one from 2009
Speak for yourself, you hid behind the likes of TampaBayJetsFan85, PhiLLY-Stacks & KnicksFanFromQueens1985. .
I said right about, maybe even later. You’re quibbling about 17 to 20? And those are quesses just like we were all guessing. Getting him at 20 wasn’t a massive steal, it was “about right”.
I didn't say it was a steal but it was a suprise. the jets weren't expecting him to be there either. most people felt the furthest he'd fall was 17 to the falcons but i agree it's all a crapshoot.
