I will throw my thinking into this thread. First thing, you will NOT draft a better edge rusher with your first round pick next year than Mack. It is a dire need. The money isn’t an issue. We have tons of cap space and can front load the deal. I would offer the raiders the first round pick plus a player or two. The players wouldn’t be Trenton Cannon level nor would they be Leo Williams. If you can answer your Qb problem AND your edge rusher all in the same calendar year...I think you pull that trigger.
You obviously don't know what you're are talking about than. Just because you don't know some of other team players( can't just look at a depth chart) , and assume Jets have so much quality depth + better talent - doesn't make it true. Let play a game give me the positions you think the Jets are better than the Raiders.
This particular time frame is a bit bad for the Jets. Giving 1st away is well within reasons for a player of Mack's calibre, but if Jets part with 1st, they are left with 3rd round pick come spring and draft. And it's probably pretty high pick too. They would have to get some picks in return if they part with 1st. Jets 1 next spring + 2 or 3 the year after for Mack and 2nd next year seems like a decent trade to me, and I would do that deal in my sleep.
I really don't see a package of 2nd and third sting players getting a deal done for one of the best pass rushers in the game. A team like Green Bay , with multiple first round picks is a much more likely trade partner. Mack will surely fetch a package of picks.
And Bradford went for a first and 4th. Sheldon coming of 2 down years, tons of off field issues , no where near the level of player as Mack got a second and Kearse. Garropolo was an unproven back up and still garnered an offer for a first and second from Cleveland. No idea why they rejected that offer. Mack will definitely net Oakland a first round pick if traded
Are we one edge rusher away from being a SB contender? If so, make the trade. If not, pass and buy one on the FA market.
Thinking like that and you will find yourself always waiting for the right time. Like the farmers say, you make hay when the suns out. You add premier players when they come available. Mac should be sending a phone call that way and gauging the situation
Yep. And the team’s main remaining needs (1.Left tackle 2.Pass rusher 3.Explosive skilll) are all the types of positions where you have to pounce if its a need regardless of the timing. If they could somehow land Mack or even Fowler while keeping their 1st rounderr it will remove the 2019 pre draft debate of “OL vs pass rusher” in round 1 as both positional groups appear very strong. Mack would check off a major major need & if the price is right it’d be foolish not to pounce
Well if they can't afford him and forcing an unhappy player to stay for two years can only cause harm to the squad in the end, they have an arse as coach who is not speaking to the guy already anyways by all accounts. I doubt very much somebody would get him for a 1 only but the above are valid reasons why they might, maybe more likely next season. I would love him but not sure I would love the 118m price tag it would cost, we have so many needs.
If he becomes available by Oakland could we get him? Absolutely. We have the space to pay him, plus have a huge need. The guy is a monster, and one of the best players in the NFL let alone at his position. The question becomes what is the price. I can't see us being able to do it without giving up a 1st and other picks plus a player. So is the question can we? Sure we can. And frankly, he would fill a gaping hole in our defense that has existed since John Abraham. In fact, we'd be able to sign him, and still have plenty of cap space in 2019 to go after Lev Bell and offensive line upgrades.
At first thougth I was against this, but the more I think about it, the more I'm for trading next years 1st for mack. I'm sure it would take more, but he is an elite player and a better gamble than whatever pick we get next year. It would be nice if Bridgewater were any interest to them as we would be able to sweeten the pot with him, but I don't see the Raiders needing him and I'm not ready to give up all our picks next year either. Next year's free agency would then become keeping our players that show anything this year and building an offensive line.
The Raiders are so stupid. Mack is a truly dominant pass rusher in his prime. Gruden seemingly doesn’t care???? Hell yeah id trade for Mack. I’d give next years first or pretty much any player they want outside of Darnold. He’s worth it
They can easily afford him , $45 million plus in cap space next year and over $114 million in 2020. He's on his 5th year option so it's only 1 year, unless they franchise him. I'm sure he will show up once game checks are on the line.
Weve seen this movie before though. New coach w big ego comes in..seems lukewarm on impact player in contract dispute despite plenty of funds & an otherwise talent scarce roster..now he wont even acknowledge the player..do these deals ever tend to get done or is the silence a cryptic death? Maybe itll be different this time but these disputes rarely end w a new contract & mended walls.More likely than not Gruden doesnt like him and/or wants the ammo/cap space from a trade to bring in his guys.
