I'd like to hear more about this.... Like Martin, ive considered but its not covered, but then again, my deductibles for surgery are such bullshit, it's prob a push. My shoulder is so fuct that I prob need surgery and stem cells ;-) already alot of meniscus scoped on one knee... and I don't think there's much left in the other.... but I'm gonna still go hard until I cant. Better to burn out than rust out. I'm 44