i'm still shocked people believe in mariotta. he's been decent at best on the NFL level. same goes for winston.
I started watching Mayfield because watching Darnold and Rosen wasn't doing it for me. Ironically, I've warmed back up to both of them since their games ended and there has been a hyper focus on their strengths. While I was actually watching them live, Darnold would throw dopey interceptions at terrible times and Rosen would do the same, but not as badly as Darnold. Rosen isn't good under pressure but is a blast to watch when not. It wasn't enough and it caused me to expand my view and I'm glad I did.
It is the GM's strategy to use free agency to fill holes and then draft BPA. We do not have a need at QB (although we know that is untrue). If we hadn't signed Bridgewater, we would have a need.
I'm not sure honestly. It is worth tracking down but I haven't taken the time to do it and in what I've seen, I have yet to see one of these plays either.
If Rosen and Mayfield are the choice at #3 and we choose Mayfield, McCagan should be fired the next day.
It is undoubtedly a concern, though you rarely hear it mentioned about anyone other than Mayfield (namely Darnold). Mariota has struggled but he still looks like a stud franchise QB, as opposed to Winston, who came out of a pro offense and looks like a jackass. NFL teams are running snaps under center somewhere in the 40% range, obviously give or take depending on the scheme and the team. The Jets would be on the south side of that, especially with Mayfield or Darnold. It is an adjustment, but not one that is world ending.
Great point, with regards to Mariota, watch how Bill coaches against him, he forces him to become a pocket passer and Mariota falls apart. He’s had some success but I would not consider him a FQB after his 4 years in the league. I would say he’s a second tier good QB.
I think McCown protects the Jets and the new rookie against the rookie coming in and being unprepared to handle the starting job right away. It is an out for both that won't be questioned. Bridgewater is a lottery ticket. In the best case scenario, he wins the starting job, has an epic year, and the Jets trade him for a bunch of draft capital that lets them bolster the team around our new QB. If Bridgewater doesn't pan out, he cost them a penny.
If your taking that stance, look up and down our roster, we dont have a need anywhere. Every position has a vet player capable of playing it for a year or two. We lack sure fire talent at QB, Edge rusher, Oline, ect, but they all have at the very least hold the fort stop gap guys. We also still have a ton of flexibility with the cap because the contracts handed out were mostly short term prove it type deals. If Mac actually drafts the right QB we are in poistion to have some very nice years coming up. Its a hell of an if though.
Those moves only dictate that we have a couple of vets capable of playing the position. Nothing more. McCown and Teddy are not guarenteed shit when it comes to playing time. If the Rookie beats them out he will play. On the other hand if the rookie needs an adjustment period we have at least two vets in front of him to give him time and space to grow. This is what the Eagles did with Wentz when he came in. They didn't trade Bradford until september 3rd once they had already decided that Wentz was going to start. It was about the perfcet situation to bring along the young kid one way or the other.
Nonsense. Morton already incorporated elements of the air raid offense last season, and it helped McCown to have one of his best seasons ever and the Jets offense to outperform expectations. Your thinking is out of date. The NFL is incorporating more and more spread concepts. Someone posted NFL analytics last night of team snaps last season and whether they were from under center or shotgun, and what percentage of plays were passes and what percentage were runs from both the shotgun and under center snaps. The Jets snapped the ball more in shotgun formation, and I think most NFL teams did. Incorporating some elements of the OK offense would not be a disaster. That's just ridiculous! Give it up.
Fixed that for you. He's a game manager when heathy. He's a younger Alex Smith, but with 0 durability. Idk how a QB that has barely broken 20 TDs in his best season can be considered "damn good."
Playing QB is a LOT more than just throwing the ball. Hating Mayfield at #3 because of his height is just silly and backwards ass thinking. SMH
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/18/baker-mayfield-2018-nfl-draft-quarterbacks Baker Mayfield Doesn’t Have Time for Your No. 6 Pick By ROBERT KLEMKO April 18, 2018 COMING SOON TO SI TV: The Big Interview: Baker Mayfield. Robert Klemko sits down for a 1-on-1 chat with the Heisman Trophy winner and likely top-10 pick in the NFL draft. See a sneak preview in the video clip above. Available only on SI TV. Teammates and friends talk about the legend of Baker Mayfield as though he were forged from some alien metal and dropped to earth—a shining example for the little guy. To almost everyone who met him at Oklahoma, he’s Baker Mayfield, walk-on turned Heisman Trophy winner, a six-foot powder keg who slings it like Favre, trash-talks like Shaq, dances like Bruno . . . and might actually hail from Mars. But they didn’t know him way back when—not back in Gina and James Mayfield’s kitchen in the suburbs of Austin, where 17-year-old Baker got up the nerve to tell his father that for college he intended to choose between Florida Atlantic and Washington State, the two so-so FBS football programs he’d gotten offers from. Those were the two schools that really liked him, and Mayfield longed to be desired, to have a chance to play. “I didn’t get the offers I wanted,” he recalls, “and in my head I’m thinking: I deserve to not have to walk on.” James, though, wasn’t having it; he told Baker he could do better. “You’ve always believed in yourself,” James said, “so why don’t you walk on somewhere you want to go?” The conversation transformed into a shouting match; the teenager stormed out of the house and paced through the neighborhood. Two hours later he came back home and decided he’d indeed try to walk on, at Texas Tech. “I was so frustrated. I almost took the easiest way out, and [my dad] kicked me in the rear. We had the biggest fight we’ve ever had,” Baker says. “He pushed me to chase my dream. I wouldn’t be here right now if he hadn’t done that.” GREG NELSON FOR SPORTS ILLUSTRATED Fourteen thousand, six hundred and seven passing yards later, Mayfield found himself at a Mexican restaurant in Hollywood, the Red O, huddling with an agent who was recommended by a handful of Sooners greats. Jack Mills handed him a sheet of paper detailing the compensation for each pick in the first round of last year’s draft. This was January, and most of the experts were pegging Mayfield as a mid-first-round selection. ESPN analyst Todd McShay, for one, had Mayfield at No. 19, to the Chargers. (Ultimately L.A. would end up with the 17th pick.) Mayfield took the paper and in ink drew a line underneath the No. 5 selection, held by the Broncos. “I’m not going later than this,” he said. In just five years Baker Mayfield has gone from a teenager who was ready to compromise on his dreams and become a Florida Atlantic Owl . . . to a 23-year-old football idol who firmly believes in his ability to willextraordinary things into happening. Along the way his eyes got big. Some will surely say his head did too. At his pro day in Norman last month, Mayfield wore a crimson-and-cream Nike headband and a small medallion bearing a depiction of St. Christopher, known as the patron saint of athletes. The headband made the rounds on social media and drew giggling comparisons to Karate Kidprotagonist Daniel LaRusso. One day before the workout, the Chargers—the team that McShay imagined drafting Mayfield in the second half of the first round—had asked him to go to lunch with a handful of staffers, including offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt. (The presence of all those Chargers employees was all the more flattering considering the timing: Free agency had just begun, and that’s typically an all-hands-on-deck day in NFL offices.) Before their lunch, the Chargers had given Mayfield a handful of plays to study and then dissect—an exercise he had excelled at with other teams. Asked afterward, though, how he felt he’d performed in the Chargers meeting, Mayfield flashed a shade of vanity more often associated with LaRusso’s Karate Kid rival: cheap-shotting bad boy Johnny Lawrence. “I didn’t look at their playbook as much as a I should have,” Mayfield said. “It could have gone a little bit better . . . but at the same time, I’m prioritizing which playbooks I’m going to learn. No offense to them, but I’ve got a lot on my plate.”
If it was his strategy to draft BPA, the pick wouldn't be a QB unless darnold fell. it would be chubb or barkley most likely
I've only watched the film of his throws from the game cut up to only show throws and haven't seen 1 throw from UC. i'm willing to bet it was all run plays which further skew stats like those posted
