Solve this math problem. Suppose a QB plays 3 games throwing 35 throws each, and goes 22 of 35 the first two games. How many out of said 35 throws will he complete in the 3d game if the overall completion % is no more than 56?
Did you watch this, posted by xxedge72x?: In fact, in this podcast they discuss the stats they used that DO adjust for wide open receivers, and tight windows, and passes behind the LOS, etc. It's a long video, and they don't get into talking about the QBs until about 13 minutes in, but it's informative.
I cant get past the fact that every piece of tape Ive seen on Mayfield, he is throwing to a WIDE open receiver. And even then, he throws behind guys if theyre 15-20 yards down teh field. I just cant see that converting to NFL success. Im ascared of drafting Mayfield
It's not poppycock. And you need to check your math. Get over it, the difference between 56 & 63 percent is negligible when you take into account dink passes in Oklahoma vs downfield passing. No matter how much the Mayfield contingent wants to use that number to drive home the greatness they see in the little man.
How many time do you need to be told that a lot of different things make up completion percentages and accuracy is ball place,want not a number that you want to completely give to BK to help your case? Or that I don't care anymore than anyone else does?
Solve the math problem I gave above and find top NFL QBs in recent history who came out with 56% or below completion from College.
Stafford was below 60. Find me any way that you think Mayfield will be anywhere near as good as Stafford. Geno had great numbers, what did that guarantee? How about all the other bust QBs with over the top numbers, what did that guarantee? One day you'll learn that numbers aren't the end all.
What 42 yard passes, Allen's yard per attempt is 6.7. Big arm, athleticism, size, it's all good, but with all that he is still 56% thrower with 6.7 y/a. No amount of highlights will change that actual performance in real games. And he is turning 22 this year, this is no spring chicken in College terms.
To paraphrase, you've been unable to find 56% QBs coming out in recent history who actually became top NFL players. Your example of "two lousy throws" being irrelevant didn't hold up when it came to the length of actual NFL season (or even 3 games for that matter), and now you are blatantly misstating Stafford completion % of 61 when he came out just because it suits your argument. Please realize, you are just simply not being objective here. Just say you like Allen no matter what, and let's be done with it. All I can now say is I hope Browns like him as much as you do.
Can you not read the name Stafford on your screen? He had one season over 60%. His other 2 years were under 53 & 57%. Under 60 for his career. Your argument over numbers is fine for your agenda. I've said over and over again that numbers can be misleading and that I'm going off of what I see. Player, teams, comp. etc. but you're going to keep arguing completion percentage numbers like every other Mayfield fanboy. Best part is the stupid idea that whoever doesn't agree with the reasons and way you make your conclusions isn't objective. But insisting that you're right and everyone else is wrong makes you objective. Lol, got to love it
Last year everyone was poo pooing Maholmes stats(even though no Pro maholmes folks were even touting it)saying it was inflated bc he played in the air raid. What’s changed? The stats crowd is the sector of the mayfield fanboys that make me crazy.Somebody wants to have conviction about the guy & provides firm film based rationale I can respect it. But when it’s just blind box score proclamation it’s very hard to have dialogue w or take seriously.
Call it 15 out of 35. But in fairness where are we going with all these stats?. I watch Fitz on his first year with the Jets do pretty well against mediocre opposition and with very talented receivers, yet I did not have an ounce of confidence that he could be the QB we so desperately need. That confidence in execution when the chips are down is the big descriminator for me. There is something to be said about those that raise to the occasion when the game is on the line, and those with great % than fold like a cheap suit, make mental mistakes or throw a dumb ill conceived interceptions killing any chance to win. I don't know who of the four has the most Killer instinct but hope that the front office does.
He was at 61 when he came out as a junior - he improved by the time he was 21. Allen didn't. The point about 21 years of age was not that the guy is old, this is to show that in College terms you are not looking at some rookie/sophomore with very little College experience, which can excuse poor College performance as the player adjusts and gets more experience. 21 years is already jr/sr territory, towards the end of College, where there is opportunity to demonstrate progression, adjustment, etc... Same point applies to Mayfield, who is a year older, but he was top 5 NCAA player for 3 years now, since he was 20. Allen hasn't. To make a long story short, once again, I am asking you to find top QBs in recent history who had 56% when they came out - their draft year. And if you can't find many, think why that is.
Maybe we are looking at this wrong. Allen threw 56% but is STILL touted as a top 10 prospect. There aren’t any similar prospects
So what then?Just completely disregard him as a prospect bc of one measly stat & convinient truth? If he’s so disposable why has he been considered a top 10 prospect for over 2 years in spite of the be all end all completion %?
Or how about forgetting the anti Allen BS? It's he can't improve but Stafford did so it doesn't count? He improved as a pro, he's a top QB. Doesn't count. He improved all during college but magically his final season number wipes out every other year. How about you just say, ok that's one. 52, 56 & 61 don't make him an above 60 QB. As to the rest, o don't give a shit about comp. %s. In college. Give me a list of all the QBs out of Oklahoma conf who massage it. From that system. Who are under 6 1. Give me that list
