What if I told you Running Backs don't win championships? QB or fire everyone that evening the second after the pick is made.
The unbiased case for Barkley is simple. He's the best player in the draft hands down. Mac is all about taking the BPA. That's always been his motus operandi. Barkley is also a Jets fan. In pretty much any other year besides this year he'd be a no brainer pick. However, things are different in 2018. Mac made his own bed and now he's forced to lie in it. He's blown every draft since being here specifically in reference to QB. In any other successful rebuild of an organization, your franchise QB has already been in place by now? Now Mac knows the fun and games he got away with in the past are no longer an acceptable result. He MUST get a QB or else he'll likely get fired. Really, that's the only reason why he shouldn't take Barkley, but make no mistake that's a very good reason. I have no sympathy for Mac and neither should anyone else. He took this job knowing a day like this may come. He knew that this is the job and it doesn't change for anyone. Results is what you're ultimately measured on and Mac has OK at very best results. If you feel sorry for him, don't bother. Do you think he's ever going to shed a tear if you fail at your job and get shit canned?
Even if Barkley was a guaranteed hall of famer I wouldnt want him. How many playoff games did the Lions win with Barry Sanders? ONE
How many SB did Dallas win without Smith Dorsett and Thomas? How many SB did Chicago win without Payton? How many SB did the Jets win without Snell? How many SB did Seattle win without Lynch? SB teams win SB and there have been lots of teams that won SB with Great running backs. There have been lots of good to Great NFL QB's who haven't won a SB.
How many teams won SBs BECAUSE of their great RB? How many great RBs carried their teams to a SB? I can make a list a whole lot long of QBs in place of RB
Still the dumbest thread posted on here in awhile. I'm just happy that the members of the Cult of Barkley got a reality check the other day.
If we hadnt traded so many picks, I'd be all for it. In other words, if we had the 3rd pick to begin with, I'd be perfectly fine with taking Saquon, even with guys like Mayfield, Jackson and Allen on the That said, we went all in so we better get a QB and he'd better be good. I resent the argument that you don't take a RB this high however. It's a skill position and if Saquon lived up to his potential, he could be a game changing player. I'm certainly more confident in his ability to be great than I am in the QBs in this draft. Do we need a QB? Yes. Did it HAVE to be in this draft b4 the trade? No.
If we stayed at 6, there would have not been pressure to select the QB. However, missing out on Cousins and making the move forces us to take the swing at a franchise QB. I'm personally happy that we're going all in for the QB now, but I do agree with the notion that staying at 6 would not have forced our hand.
The problem with staying at 6 would be that the top QB's could all be taken and we'd have to settle on a tier 2 or 3 QB. Who knows how good future QB classes will be. Have to strike sooner or later. This year's class may not have a "can't miss" QB, but it isn't weak either.
That's all nice but it doesn't deal with reality. Barkley is very probably going to be a great RB. Any of the QB's who fall to us probably aren't going to be generationally great QB's. The fact that we mismanaged last years draft by not taking Mahomes or Watson is the reason we are taking a QB this year. Desperation isn't a plan to develop a SB team. I don't think you can give me a long list of SB teams that won SB because of their QB. Obviously Tom Brady is going down as the GOAT. From my POV the two greatest QB's I have seen are Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino. Rodgers won 1 SB when he had a top 5 D that was 2nd in points allowed. That's it. Dan Marino got to one SB and lost to Joe Montana's 49er's. The 49er's had an extremely good D. They also had the no. 3 rushing attack in the league that year. They had Tyler who had a great year running the ball with over a 5 yard per and Rodger Craig who was a great dual threat. Take this for what it's worth. It's not a coincidence to me that the teams that have been the most successful are the teams with great coaches and coaching staffs. Bill Walsh was the most innovative offensive mind BB is probably the greatest defensive coach ever. That's the real formula.
What you want to do with RB's at this point is use them aggressively while they are on the first contract and then recoup a 3rd or 4th round pick when they leave. That's what makes sense from a cap and longevity perspective. You don't really want to spend a high first round pick, or really any first round pick on a player who is likely to be best used in that manner. If you do spend a high pick that way you want most of the other pieces in play so that you can get the most value out of the RB in the first 3 or 4 seasons when he is likely at his prime level of play. The Jets can't afford to take Barkley at this point on the 3. They don't have the pieces around him to get the most value out of his play and by the time they have filled things out he's already going to have 600+ touches under his belt, maybe more depending on the QB growing pains involved. Just going to add: if we do get Barkley is there any chance we can get him to wear a wedding dress for the promo photos at the Jets facility after the draft?
Darnold is deeply flawed and Rosen is made of glass and won't last. We need a QB but I'd still rather see us take Saquon than any of the QBs on the board because all the qbs on the board are a reach at the 3 spot compared to QBs of other years. I'd rather roll the dice on Bridgewater, and if he breaks down draft a QB with our high 1 next year to go along with Saquon.
It make sense, but not to the dumb dumbs, who believe that FQB's are the answer to the JETS problems, and spending a high first round pick once again will fix it. When the team is fixed to a large degree on offense, then look for one. Madden players take a QB first and then build around him.
Barkley is the real deal. He’s a better version of Ezekiel Elliot and Zeke is a top 5 back!!! However this move screams QB and there is no doubt it’s for a QB
