it's a pro mayfield conspiracy. many thing he can do no wrong. too many people must have watched the movie rudy recently or old flashbacks of doug flutie
I would bring Rex on as a consultant to the cafeteria at this point, that’s how much I value his opinion. I agree Josh Allen is a major target for us.
Sorry, I just corrected that typo. I meant it's not a conspiracy, period. People close to Rosen or who have watched Rosen believe concussions are a red flag. We know about Mayfield's concussions, but it's a not a big story. Why is this? Is it because the national media is rooting for Mayfield and not Rosen? Or is it more likely that insiders believe Rosen was more severely affected by his concussions at the time, was slower to recover, etc?
Bit o honey can definitely be had in the middle rounds, first round is for your candy bars, 2nd round is your fruity candy( star burst,skittles and such.) after that you have your Lilly pops and hard candy followed by the obscure and holiday themed candy. That’s where you get your bit o honey, candy corn and other things you only find at the bottom of the trick or treat bag. You can take bit o honey in the first and be happy you have it but you are really not using the candy draft to it’s fullest unless you walk out of it with say a Reese’s peanut butter cup, couple of blow pops and the bit o honey.
Yes, I heard you in the morning meeting. Now do you have our plane tickets? We're flying out to the Snickers with Almonds Pro Day right after lunch.
If two quarterbacks have surgery in college, and one has surgery on his labrum and the other has surgery on his non-throwing hand, does that mean we're equally concerned about both because they're had the same number of surgeries? All concussions are not created equal. This is my point. Don't think for a second that there is a single player in Division 1 football that hasn't suffered from brain trauma. We still have much to learn about diagnosing concussions when they happen. For now, as long as someone is young and alive, the best we can do is monitor symptoms. If the "number" of Rosen's concussions are a national story and Mayfield's are not, it's not because people are ignoring the Hesiman winner's health. That makes no sense. Rather, the most likely reason is that Rosen's symptoms and recovery time were remarkable in some way to NFL teams while Mayfield's were not. This seems obvious.
Great feedback and excellent points to consider based on recent history . Thank you. From your view point, Who do you really think should be our target at 3 and who do you think we will end up getting?
read this post i just made http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...hat-the-film-shows.90242/page-17#post-3679061 not about injuries but about how the media and people here twist mayfields history
lol petty at 62.7% but in the NFL he can't hit the broadside of a barn from 2 yards away. watching him play those final 3 games was brutal
I'm not going to be depressed if the Jets pick Allen. The move will either work or we'll get a well-deserved regime change. If it happens I'm going to root for it to work because I'm a Jets fan.
The thing I've never understood is why anybody in the NFL thinks they should be teaching anybody at the pro level how to play the game. The draftees have a solid 6 years of organized football behind them. If they don't already know how to dot the i's and cross the t's, well that's a glaring red flag that should prevent anybody from taking them high in the draft. The first round of the NFL draft is a chance to get future stars for your roster. If the guy is not already a star why would you take him with a top 32 pick? There are exceptions, OBJ coming to mind, but generally if a player has greatness in him he's shown some of it at the college level beforehand. Tom Brady had a good college career at Michigan. He was just sandwiched between Brian Griese and Drew Henson.
That's a compelling post, and I appreciate the effort you've put in on this board over the past few weeks. I've learned a lot from it. I'm not making an argument for Mayfield. All I'm saying is that Rosen's concussion history appears to be a concern to teams while Mayfield's isn't, and it's not a conspiracy, and it's not a TGG-created narrative. It's a national story.
becuase colleges have to scheme around lack of talent and ever changing players the best college players only play like 3-4 years in college where the best NFL players play for over a decade. The NFL players are also surrounded by talent where good college players are often surrounded by crap who never get drafted. in college you want to keep everything simple and basic and just practice a few things where the NFL is much more complex
I agree concussions are always a concern. they don't go away and get worse and worse over time (like chrebet) The thing is mayfield is just as susceptible to concussions as rosen and with the way he plays probably even more so.
To start, we would have to go back and look at the hits. Concussions are still concussions at the end of the day. Mayfield, a QB that likes to move around a lot, throw on the run. People say "mobile" QBs get hurt a lot. I mean that's something I wouldn't say but thats the word around here. The Jets offense line with the upgrade at C is much better IMO. It will trickle down to Winters and Carp for sure. So a pocket QB, that can go through progressions super quick (rules btw) is more likely to succeed then a QB that tries to make plays on the run, the way Mayfield does. Go back and watch the 2nd half against Georgia. We know Mayfield lacks the pocket presence right now. It takes time to develop that. Observe a player's playing style. Rosen is a natural in the pocket and in terms of throwing the football. This seems obvious I guess?
Or the fans who believe some other team's bust will get turned around by a fresh start with some new position coach. "Nice, we signed Joe Bust! Sure, he's 25 and has been playing organized football for 12 years, but wait until our amazing LB coach teaches him how to use his hands! Because no other coach in college or the NFL has ever tried to help him with this!"
