https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/30/2018-draft-josh-allen-sam-darnold-tyrod-taylor-browns-bills Ryan: I don’t know [the prospects] as well as their scouts, but I love Josh Allen. He’s got a huge arm. I like the makeup of the young man. Sam Darnold, obviously, would be another one. Those are the two top guys in my opinion. I’m really high on Josh Allen. He reminds me of Ben Roethlisberger. He’s got the big arm. He’s a very good athlete. He’s got some movement skills. And I think he’s got the makeup of what you’re looking for in a quarterback.
Since I am a noob when it comes to college QB’s I can’t criticize Rex at all but what the heck is this Allen love from football people. Phil Simms also in love with Allen, Mel Kiper in love with Allen some other ex athletes high on Allen. Are the people collectively pulling a stunt? Dear Jets. Please be careful and stay away from Allen and go with one of Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold.
It’s a battle between the “football people” and the anlalytics nerds who hate Allen. I personally think he’s a similar prospect to Mahomes and I loved Mahomes coming out.
And this is how you know the absolute right answer at 3 is mayfield should Rosen and Darnold be gone.
Haha that is the same Rex who made the Jets draft Sanchez against the advice of the Jets scouting department. But if I am going to criticize him, I should give him credit for taking a chance on Tyrod Taylor in Buffalo.
I won't dismiss Allen because Rex likes him, but I certainly don't take Rex's opinions on QB's seriously.
The biggest problem I have with Allen is that a strong arm doesn't buy you anything on an NFL field if you can't make the right decisions and the right throws. So far there isn't a lot to indicate that Allen understands what to do with the football in any given situation. If the Jets had not just failed with a strong-armed guy with accuracy issues I'd be a bit more predisposed to looking at Allen, but even then based on what he did in college he should be a 3rd round pick, not getting picked up in the top 4. Hack got picked in the 2nd round when he was really a 6th round pick. Allen is going to get taken in the 1st when he is really more like a 3rd round pick. I hope the Jets aren't the team that decides they have a magic fairy dust wand that will suddenly make Allen a good QB. It could happen. Allen could be a good QB at the NFL level, but it's likely going to take an Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Mike McCarthy type boss to make that happen and then it's probably going to take a year or two and finally he's 50/50 to bust even if whoever gets him has a strong clue.
Considering Rex was the best coach we’ve had since Parcels I like his opinion. I think Rex looks at him the same way most scouts GMs and coaches look at him. HE PASSES THE EYE TEST! Ron Wolf and many other successful talent analysts have said “trust your eyes” and when I look at Allen throwing the football he passes the eye test with flying colours.
Hackenberg and Allen play completely different styles of football. It's night and day when you watch the tape. Hack mentally shuts down whenever there is pressure. Allen competes through pressure and tries to extend plays. Allen throws a much more crisp, accurate, and well-timed ball. Equating Allen to Hack based on their height and arm strength is incredibly ignorant. I'd be really interesting to see which posters were pro-drafting Hack when he was a prospect (there was a sizable portion of this board that was pro-Hack).
Isn't looking at him the eye test? The question isn't wether or not he passes the "Eye Test" The question is do scouts, GM's and coaches have enough information and are they good enough to project someone's NFL future based on looking at them? That's exactly the problem with Allen. He looks great but there isn't enough information on him to project him as an NFL QB other than the "Eye Test" He doesn't pass the actually play football test.
I don't know Brook, maybe you should listen to football people over message board posters who keep bringing up Hack? Just a thought
Mac was in no hurry to fix the OL this offseason, and between that and the Bridgewater signing it almost points to the expectation that the QB to be named later will sit for a year. This could eliminate a guy like Rosen from the equation because he appears to be ready to go. Makes me wonder if they really are targeting Mayfield or Allen.
"Football people" have been drafting QB busts like candy. I don't hear anyone comparing him to Andrew Luck. The reality is the football people who run the Jets have a better than even chance of getting canned because of this pick.
