Timmons hit ended Sanchez era

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  1. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    To this day

    I feel like the Steelers ended the Sanchez era. He was NEVER the same after that illegal hit.

    Shame
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You talking about the 2012 hit when Timmons got fined?

    His era ended in 2011 against the Ravens when he got destroyed by Haloti Ngata up the middle.

    He was on pace for a great season up until that hit and he was never the same since.

    The reason I remember this vividly is that superdowner Br4dway5ux started this thread earlier in the season.

    http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...-all-time-single-season-record-for-tds.69636/
     
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  4. forevercursed

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    It was a brutal hit and a dirty one. Timmons did get 15 for it.

    I'm not sure Sanchez would've amounted to anything if that hit never happened though. By early 2012 there were already plenty of doubters regarding his ability to be a true FQB. He had happy feet in the pocket. His completion percentage was never very good. He was never reliably accurate. Always prone to the stupid interceptions. That ugly end to the 2011 season really left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. It's not like he was on the trajectory to become the next Brees.
     
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    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez also took an absolutely brutal helmet to helmet spear in the 2009 Championship Game vs the Colts. It was on the TD throw to Keller. No penalty somehow.
     
  6. Br4d

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    I think the Ravens game might have been the first indication that the Jets were unable to protect Sanchez adequately. Mangold got hurt very early in the game and Ngata bullrushed the backup and things got very ugly. No QB can function with somebody in his face up the middle on a third of the plays.

    The games that did him in were the Broncos game where he fractured some ribs when he was sandwiched between Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil and then the Eagles games where Santonio Holmes gave up two interceptions on passes over the middle in which he had the ball in his hands and basically handed it to the defensive player covering him and then finally the Giants game where both teams came in 7-7 and Sanchez got sacked 5 times and hit another dozen or so on the day as he was throwing or after the pass.

    He went from being our developing franchise QB to our casualty in that 6 week span.
     
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  7. SecretConnection

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    The drafting of Mark Sanchez ended the Mark Sanchez era.

    Seriously though.....If one hit can change you, you have no business in the NFL.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Broncos game definitely exacerbated the injuries, the moment that truly stood out to me was the Eagles game, for a very different reason .

    Sanchez dropped back and threw an incompletion, then half a second later Jason Babin snuck forward with a calculated love tap with his crown to the left side of Mark's helmet that looked pretty harmless, and MS dropped like a sack of rotten potatoes.

    The Eagles had gotten the scouting report right and knew the dude had a wicked stinger that he couldn't recover from.

    2011 was definitely the year of his demise.
     
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    He just put Mark out of his misery, that's all.
     
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    True. Like Ryan Shazier. Guy was a turd...

    Dennis Byrd
    Joe Theismann
    Michael Irvin


    The list of guys who were taken out by one hit and had no business in the NFL before that goes on and on.
     
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  11. MurrellMartin

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    Eh.

    Sanchez's era ended because once the kid gloves were off, once he didn't have an elite OL, ground game and defense, he couldn't handle it. He couldn't put a team on his back and make up for the deficiencies of other positions. He was a classic average game-manager. Did he have the talent to be more than that? Absolutely. For many different reasons, he never reached that potential. You can blame the Jets for screwing with the WR room. You can blame Sanchez for some of the stuff he did off the field and his apparent sensitivity/unwillingness to realize that he had to improve instead of resting on his laurels. At the end of the day, he was worth what we gave up and 2009-midway through 2011 was a fun time. After that, it all came crashing down and Mark couldn't save himself, let alone the Jets. Seeing as he's done little to nothing since leaving the Jets, it's apparent the rest of the league realizes his flaws as well.
     
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    Yes! I've always thought this.
    Yes! I've always thought this. Wasn't this the game when Mangold was hurt? Mark never seemed confident back there after this game. This game was a mess. I seemed to recall a brutal blind side hit very early in the game, though it could be a different game.The Ravens came after him - and got him.
     
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    That's what happens when you blow all your cap space on CBs and are putting street free agents in at center.
     
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    This thread is gonna bump the Drunk Tank :(
     
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    I wonder if any fans have feel bad for trashing Sanchez, when in reality, his QB play was average and the team around him was great, leading to a great era in Jets football history. 4 playoff wins, 2 AFC title game appearances, etc. Then the team around him wasn't great and the team started to struggle. Fans wanted him out and were given Geno Smith, Michael Vick, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, Josh McCown, and Christian Hackenberg.

    I'd say trading for Tim Tebow ruined Sanchez. I thought he was beginning to play solid football where he could carry a team in 2011. 32 total touchdowns, had the team at (8-5), but then the team collapsed and finished (8-8). Odd to give up on a QB who had done so much in 3 seasons, but the Jets clearly did.

    2012 he was terrible, as was the rest of the team, and then 2013 he was thrown to the wolves in preseason. Pretty sad story how Sanchez was handled in New York.
     
  16. SecretConnection

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    I was talking mentally sir. Obviously one hit can change you physically.
     
  17. JethroTull

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    I was at that Ravens game. I thought he was never the same after that Suggs hit & Pick 6. He got absoultely crushed that game.

    On a sad note I remember Joe McKnight running back a kick for a TD that game.
     
  18. Sam Hammer

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    I remember that hit like it was yesterday. Sanchez was looking pretty decisive that preseason and first game, even at the beginning of the Steelers game he was marching the team right down the field, right up until that point and then never recovered. After that game his footwork went to shit and he was always playing scared and missing open receivers.
     
  19. Br4d

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    The Jets were absolutely shut down on offense that day. They had no control of the line of scrimmage at all and Sanchez began making rushed throws early on after Mangold went down. I don't think any QB shy of a prime Aaron Rodgers could have done anything that day with no protection and the Raven's CB's in full press mode all game.
     
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    IMO, what doomed Sanchez was that he was never able to be more than a game manager QB in the NFL. He had a few good games here and there, but way too many bad games. The 2009 team could've won more games and possibly competed for a first round bye with average QB play.
     
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