That is great news. Here's hoping Cleveland bites and take him or the Giants trade to the Bills and they take him.
You maybe right and Rosen will not last much at all. But of all the QBs in the draft he is the best to start game 1. Will he be any good say 10 years down the road, who knows. He is the most accurate and his mechanics are the best of all the QB prospects right now. Then again as Parcells once said the draft is a crap shoot. Look now we know that Brady may have been the best QB in the 2000 draft. But any one with any football IQ back then would have rightly said Chad Pennington was the best choice back then. Had he not suffered those shoulder injuries, he might have been a hall of fame QB. I still will argue to the day I die the Jets made a good choice drafting Pennington. Unfortunately the football Gods were not with the Jets or Pennington. Back then Pennington was the best ready QB for the NFL. It took Brady a few years to develop into a Franchise QB, it didn't happen overnight. Anyone who claims back in 2000 that Brady was a going to be a hall of fame QB is a total liar.
I couldn’t care less which QB is most ready to start week 1, year 1. I want the QB that will be good to great for the next 10+ years. Any of the 4 have the potential for that and any of the 4 could bust. This is one of the most fascinating QB classes I can ever remember. All I know is I’m glad my job isn’t dependent on picking the right one. Good luck Mac, I’m rooting for ya.
this is actually a very interesting stat for Favre. I have mostly been opposed to Allen because of his completion percentage. But you can easily compare Allen's arm talent and style of play to Favre. I will add, Allen scares the shit out of me, but I also feel like he has the most upside of all QBs in the draft.
So you are willing to put Allen in HOF talks then, yes? I'm only seeing HoF names when mentioning sub 60% completions in college. Let's be exhaustive and list ALL of the names and then parse the data. Fact is, the data will show a sub 60% completion in college is a good indication of NFL failure.
If you look at stats objectively above 60% is a good indication of NFL failure. Objectively NFL failure by any of these QB's is a given. Here are the top 10 NCAA completion percentage leaders: 1 Colt Brennan* 70.39 2005 2007 Hawaii 2 Colt McCoy* 70.33 2006 2009 Texas 3 Kellen Moore* 69.78 2008 2011 Boise State 4 Graham Harrell* 69.77 2005 2008 Texas Tech 5 Brandon Weeden* 69.54 2008 2011 Oklahoma State 6 Case Keenum* 69.36 2007 2011 Houston 7 Chase Holbrook 69.35 2006 2008 New Mexico State 8 Seth Doege* 69.00 2009 2012 Texas Tech 9 Johnny Manziel* 68.95 2012 2013 Texas A&M 10 Brandon Doughty* 68.61 2011 2015 Western Kentucky Apparently 70% is a good indication of bust.
Just want to point out that he had just 6 INTs all season. That one was his worst one by far and it also was against one of the best CBs in the country. If I remember correctly, the other INTs were: -a tipped ball on a screen pass against Iowa -one against Oregon where his throwing arm is hit by a defender as he is throwing after just spinning away from immediate pressure. Note this wasn't the best decision anyway as he was rolling left attempting to throw across his body. Wyoming was getting their ass handed to them so he was just trying to make a play. -a failed throw away attempt -Boise St doing a absolutely great job fooling him pre-snap into thinking he had the TE on a post after a double move against 0 coverage pre-snap only to have the safety roll into a single high safety look post snap. That's the one Mayock quizzed him about at his pro day. -poor ball placement on a 9 route where he had a 1v1. He threw the ball to the inside as oppose to the outside shoulder
Again (I've posted in another thread), above 60% indicating NFL success is not the argument. Below 60% is the indicator and the premise of the argument below 60% leads to NFL failure.
How many busts were drafted below 60% vs. above 60%. Percentages. Make it easy use the 1st round. Since 2000 how many guys under 6' 2" were taken in the first round that didn't bust. Why isn't Luke Falk who played in the same PAC 12 that both Darnold and Rosen played in part of the conversation of who to take with the No. 3 pick?
The onus of this is on you to provide. Though I will say, I imagine the total numbers for < 60% are smaller than the total numbers for greater than 60% because teams shy away from sub 60% passers. I also imagine the % is substantially higher for bust in the <60% category.
Cept for Vick, Stafford, David Garrard, Jay Cutler, and Lamar Jackson ... there will always been exceptions to the case. I am sure there are others. But there is too low and Josh Allen is really really low.
