LOL if he’s drafted by the Pats maybe If he goes to the Jets he will need to be stretchered off to draw a flag But seriously he’s intriguing to me but maybe it’s the Jets fan in me....I just have this feeling that in like 3 years Rosen is leading some mega concussion lawsuit vs the NFL If anyone is leaving early it’s gotta be him...academic/snobby type from a rich medical family....not afraid to speak against the grain/status quo, concussion issues himself, etc Or he could be the next Aaron Rodgers...who the hell knows
No to Rosen who has had numerous concussions and injuries, plus is not a proven leader. No to Allan who was one of the least accurate QB in college last year and very inconsistent at reading defenses. Maybe to Darnold who was my favorite QB in 2016 and could be the answer, if only he was from some college other than USC. YES to Mayfield who is the most accurate QB in college and the most productive. He is a brash leader and maybe a little too immature at times, but the only real knock is his height.
ALLEN IS THE BEST QB IN THE DRAFT!!! The other guys aren’t slouches but Allen is the best and will be the best.
I refuse to believe Darnold is an option so bring on one of the Josh’s for me. I’ll be hopeful with any of the QBs selected but don’t see any way that the Jets traded up for Mayfield.
When you look at the work the Jets continue to do around Mayfield post trade he is definitely a possibility. Be is a gifted, accurate thrower of the football. Fearless and confident
It's really difficult for me to see 4 FQBs coming out of this draft. 3 of them played 2 seasons, and the only one who played more than 2 is barely 6"1 and by the analytics report has not been asked to make NFL throws in the scheme he played in. I believe a pocket passer should be an important criteria for Jets and only 3 of them fit the bill. Rosen, Allen and Darnold, out of those guys if he's healthy, Rosen is the one who translates quickest into an NFL starter provided he's given the tools to work with, oline, skilled offensive players and good coaching.
I couldn't disagree more. I think this guy is going to bust unless he gets with a great team that doesn't need him to play right away and will be able to give him weapons and great protection. Since he is projected to some bad teams, I really don't like his chances.
So I was talking to a friend last night, who is really into college football to get his take on the QBs. Surprisingly this is what he said. "you want allen" he said allen is the type of QB who will put a team on his back and win you the game. that he has that kind of arm and talent. He said avoid mayfield he's a garbage system QB who will never make it in the NFL. . he said he doens't like rosen, he thinks allen is a better version of rosen without the concussions or attitude issues. He likes darnold but says he makes too many bad mistakes and turnovers. He said jackson is a 50/50 shot. his rankings Allen Darnold Rosen Jackson Mayfield just figured i'd throw another POV out there for all the allen haters
just a college football fan. what are yours? lol kinda a dumb question to ask on a forum, it's not like a single person here is a professional scout
Not being snarky when I asked. If he has some expertise then I wanted to know, otherwise he's just another opinion.
Red meat for the Allen Bros: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...xec-says-josh-allen-is-2018-nfl-drafts-top-qb That said, this is the part that concerns me about Allen: "With all of that said, Allen's inconsistency in throwing with anticipation was also a major culprit in his failure to reach the 57-percent completion mark in each his two years as a starter (teams typically want to see at least a 60-percent completion rate). While Allen will most definitely benefit from a huge jump in the quality of receivers he is throwing to once he enters the NFL, there is no guarantee that his anticipatory throwing will substantially improve. Allen saw plenty of tight throwing windows in college, but the difference in the pros is that open windows close much faster and hesitations in decision-making will lead to defended passes, including interceptions. Allen's completion percentage was also hurt by taking unnecessary chances with throws. That's on Allen, not on his receivers." How does that get better until he plays against bigger, faster competition, and doing that will be pretty ugly until/if he learns. I don't think Jets fans will have patience for that.
then i apologize, too many people being snarky around there these days so i assumed the worst. I shouldn't have done that
Not a problem...I probably should've prefaced my question with the "not snarky" comment first. Too bad things have degraded to this point though.
If true, this would be excellent for the Jets chances of getting Rosen: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/13058/sam-darnold According to ESPN Giants reporter Jordan Raanan, USC's Sam Darnold is the only quarterback the Giants would take at the No. 2 overall pick. It sounds like the Giants' scouting grades on Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, and Josh Allen simply aren't high enough for GM Dave Gettleman to consider picking one of the non-Darnold quarterbacks at No. 2. Gettleman has a history of drafting running backs high -- he took Christian McCaffrey eighth overall in Carolina last year -- and he never traded down in any round of the draft during four seasons as Panthers GM. Barring Gettleman disregarding his scouts or reversing course on his historical anti-trade-down stance, Penn State RB Saquon Barkley and NC State DE/OLB Bradley Chubb appear to be co-favorites to go at No. 2. Mar 23 - 1:34 PM
that's the real issue sadly. I was on the defense already and shouldn't have lashed out. there really wasn't anything wrong with your comment, it was just too many people being asshats lately
This is the same issue that Geno Smith had. Allen also runs backwards out of the pocket instead of stepping forward like Geno did. A lot of his fundamentals just seem too shaky to feel comfortable using a #3 pick on him.
gettleman is a true wildcard. he'll find who he likes and draft them regardless of position and what he likes rarely agrees with general consensus. He is known for reaching if he really likes a prospect regardless of position or need. it's very likely he drafts someone we aren't even discussing
