it's ok comments like that, show everyone clearly who is the "troll" he's mad becuase i posted a screenshot of him saying mayfield was a 2nd round pick when he denied he never said that. instead of being an adult and just admitting it.
some people just don't understand that logic sadly. they don't understand that everyone here, every analysts, and every GM is nothing more then an "asshole with an opinion trying to make their best guess" nobody will know who is "wrong" until years from now
Okay. NC is also a good poster who contributes to this board. Please respect each other and refrain using the word troll so liberally. Now you know I like your takes on football but I love Mayfield with my limited knowledge. Me and NC are on the same camp when it comes to Mayfield.
hiesman is based on college production, not NFL talent. many hiesman winner fizzle out in the NFL. jason white won twice and yes i know he had knee issues but never made any career out of the NFL. People seem to forget that jackson won it the year before and yet say jackson sucks. In short, everyone is being a hypocrite
I wouldn't call him a troll for his opinion, he's entitled to that, but personal attacks, and lashing out at other posters does make one a troll.
I don't believe in feature backs. I get they can give a team a shot in the arm esp when they come via the 1st round..but will any of those names still be top end players or even on their respected teams in 5 years? Guess we'll find out but recent history says most likely not. They either wear down, Defensive coordinators hone in on how to neutralize them or they cant stay healthy. I think the best way to use the position is RB by committee. Ideally one of those guys is gonna get 5-10 more carries a game than the other 2..but even that could vary based on opponent. This keeps everybody fresh, cuts down on exposure to injury & works well situationally. Now if you wanna say a guy like Barkely is an impact player in this type of system you maybe onto something but again...shorter lifespan for these guys careers. Is he even around 5 seasons from now?
Personally, I believe there wasn't a great cast to compete for the Heisman. Darnold couldn't overcome an immature USC squad early on and Lamar had to carry his team all season long, he accounted for like 80% of his teams yards. You can't beat Clemson with a 1 man army.
Learning is one thing, doing is another. Allen has shown he can do everything you want a QB to do, but there are times as if his brain goes into molasses mode. He has some very serious flaws, and I'm not sure practice will fix them. And if it does, it won't happen quickly enough for Jets fans. He's much better off going to Cleveland or Buffalo.
bell has done it 5 years and is only 26 and not close to wearing down. most RBs die down around 30. that gives you at minimum 6-8 good years. If you can get that from a draft pick, that is a huge win. Look how much arizona sucked this year when johnson went down.
Sorry, but I disagree. All opinions are not equal. Some are more rational/logical/realistic than others, and aren't based on being obsessed or in love with a player. Nowhere did I say or imply that Barkley will go in the 2nd round or that he should. Quite to the contrary, I'm certain that Barkley will go in the top 5. I just don't think he will or should go in the top 3. It could happen, however, but I think it would be a big mistake. I think he will go #4 to Cleveland or #5 to Denver if the Broncos don't like the QB that falls. As far as Barkley himself goes, he's a great player/prospect, but I don't see him being "way more talented" than Michel or Guice. It's funny how with QBs most people talk about production vs measurables and potential (like we are with regards to Allen), but with RB (or at least Barkley), all that seems to go out the window. His collegiate production this past season was not that good. Michel's production was almost as good as Barkley's (1,227 yards vs 1,271 yards and 16 TD vs 18 TDs), and Michel didn't even start. Barkley was 28th in Rushing yards. He was 2nd in All Purpose Yards. 7 RBs had more TDs and two others had just as many TDs. Rashaad Penny was #1 in Rushing Yards and in All Purpose Yards and 2nd in TDs, yet he's considered a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Why? Lamar Jackson had more rushing yards (1,601) and just as many TDs as Barkley. Barkley is #165 on the career rushing yards in college. Both Michel and Guice have higher career YPC averages than Barkley. Does that sound like a generational RB and one who deserves to be chosen over a QB? Not to me.
I think he gets flustered after making a few bad plays. Seems to get derailed. All comes back to forcing plays that are not there. No QB in this draft I'd going to develop fast enough for jet fans.......
rosen could start year 1 with growing pains. easily year 2. darnold should be good to go after 1 year allen, mayfield, and jackson probably need 2 years which jet fans won't be patient for, but with jackson he can start year 2 and make up for the learning curve with his legs
Time will tell. I'm far from sold on Darnold and my personal rankings would have 2 of the guys you say need 2 years on the bench top 3 behind Rosen.
Yeah, we are all the same, I actually like him and a lot of his posts are fairly well thought out and detailed so the odd one disagreeing is okay lol I like a lot of your posts as well, so that is why I never continued our discussion from yesterday, it would go round and round and round lol
You can keep saying it's irrelevant, but that doesn't make it so. I remember an article I read a year or two ago where ESPN or The Sporting News compared the NFL performance of QBs who came from a Spread vs a Pro-Style offense (I'll post a link if I can find it). The sample size was pretty big, like 100 or 150 QBs, all the ones drafted for 8 or 10 years I think. What I remember is that QB prospects that came from a Pro-Style offense in college had a 50% failure rate in the NFL, and QB prospects that came from a Spread offense in college had a 70% failure rate in the NFL. I'm not predicting that Baker will fail by any means. I do think that the change to an NFL offense, and all the fundamental changes that come with that, will make it 15 or 20% harder for him than if he didn't have to make those changes. Combine that with his height disadvantage, which is also possible to overcome, but probably makes it 20 or 25% harder than if he were 6'-5", and his road to becoming the franchise savior looks pretty rocky. If you don't like those numbers--fine--plug in whatever you think they are, but don't pretend either is 0%. They are issues he & the team that drafts him will have to overcome. Again, I'm not saying he can't do it--I'm rooting for him to do it!--I'm just saying that if you're going to compare his value against Rosen, Darnold, Allen, or whomever you'd like to add to that list, these considerations matter.
yup only a few years form now will we really know who panned out and who didn't he does, but he can't separate fact form opinion and gets nasty if you don't see his opinion as fact. I also caught him lying and posted a screenshot so he's been bad mouthing me since lol
