The Jets traded 4 draft picks for 1 draft pick. Let's be clear on that.

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  1. SackExchange69

    SackExchange69 Well-Known Member

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    The jets obviously don't hold much value in the 6th pick if they believe the guy they want won't be there.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I bet that if the Bills trade 2 first round picks and 5 second round picks, Jets fans will be talking about how they have up 2 firsts and 5 seconds.
     
  3. SackExchange69

    SackExchange69 Well-Known Member

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    I fully understand I just don't agree with it.
     
  4. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    The Jets traded a 1st Round Pick (#6 overall), 2 2018 2nd Round Picks and 1 2019 2nd Round Pick to the Colts for the #3 overall pick in the 2018 draft. Thus, traded a 1st Round pick. Happy, @abyzmul?

    I am still not even sure if you like the move or not since you are focused on technicalities.
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The two shouldn't even coincide.

    But at least you aren't pretending that the Jets didn't include a 1st.

    But if you're curious, look at the many threads that discuss the draft possibilities.

    Do me a favor while you're there. Question why there are 10 threads discussing the same thing.
     
  6. twown

    twown Well-Known Member

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    Dude, they're just phrasing it awkwardly. No one misunderstands or is refusing to admit the terms of the deal. It's cut and dried.

    (I get all kinds of interesting interpretations of twown. It was actually a typo in a friend's email. She said she wanted to fly into twown for a visit. So I, um... rearranged some pillows.)
     
  7. JetBlue

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    There is a concept called net vs gross. Clearly people are talking about the net result being we retain a pick in the first round with only a loss of three second round picks.

    The claim is clearly based on the idea of moving FROM 6 to 3, not simply acquiring the 3rd pick. To move from 6 to 3 inherently includes not having the 6th pick anymore, so only net cost that has any meaningful merit is what additional costs did it take to get the Colts to drop to 6?
     
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    Who is the guy you want so badly ? What makes you think he'll be there at 3? What happens if he's not there ?
     
  9. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Then he’s not there. The universe isn’t going to implode or anything?
     
  10. twown

    twown Well-Known Member

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    Not for another 15 billion years, by which time Mac will have hit on like 6 draft picks.
     
  11. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    This has to be post of the year!

    Lol.....nice way of keeping things fun!!
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    No shit, man. Come on. It's prefential syntax.

    Do you prefer to say this is simply a move from 6 to 3?

    Never mind that it's a fact that 4 picks were traded for 1, it makes people feel better that one currency of a certain similar value was upgraded to another currency of similar but higher value, so you only mention the external values that helped that currency upgrade.

    You of all people, I expected to understand.
     
  13. HomeoftheJets

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    Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. One of them will be there at 3. I don't think any of them would have been there at 6.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't want anyone badly. I haven't watched any Pro Day workouts and I don't work for an NFL team. I think there are a couple of QBs that could work for the Jets, but I'm not really qualified to decide that, so I'd prefer not to make a choice either way.

    What I do know is that the Jets certainly did include their first round pick in this trade.
     
  15. JetBlue

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    I understand 4 picks were involved, and so does everyone else. But the net cost was 3 second rounders which is what everyone is discussing.
     
  16. HomeoftheJets

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    The net cost was 3 second rounders minus the difference in value between the 3rd and 6th picks.
     
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  17. twown

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    Holy shit, brother. Hahaha.

    This thread is like that time Jesus kept cutting farts while talking to his disciples.
     
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  18. Zach

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    Well. Jets didn't send 2x 1st round picks just so they could draft Dslob. [Vomits]

    P.S. I wouldn't have issues if Jets gave up 2x 2nd rounders to trade up into late 1st round picks. They would get to draft twice in the first round that way. This? Fuck that.
     
  19. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Word it however one wants to, the fact of the matter is the Jets simply moved up 3 spots. The cost of swapping spots with the Colts was basically 940 points in the 2018 Draft along with an unknown spot in the 2nd rd of the 2019 Draft. That right there is the premium paid for our future franchise quarterback.

    The Colts No. 3 overall pick is valued by the draft value chart at 2,200 points. The Jets No. 6 overall pick was valued at 1,600 points. The Jets had to make up that difference and then some.

    The chart is just a guide. If there is a lot of competition to trade up, the price can go up. Simple law of supply and demand.

    The Jets 37th pick (530 pts) and 49th pick from Seattle (410 pts) combined were worth 940 points based on the value chart.

    Bottom line Mac paid 340 points extra plus a future 2nd (unknown pts) round pick in 2019. Most likely that future 2nd is in the 400 point range...So that's roughly 740 points extra given to the Colts using the draft chart. That's not that bad.

    Perhaps some would rather keep our 2nd rd picks this year and give up our future 1st and 2nd in 2019?

    I would prefer to keep the 1st in 2019. That keeps open the option of trading back to acquire more draft picks.
     
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  20. twown

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    /all threads.

    This trade guarantees a blue chip QB prospect. He can hit or miss, but arguments about the chart cannot be strictly applied here.
     
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