Josh Allen's receivers weren't that bad in terms of dropping passes. Not compared to Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen and Riley Ferguson. Man, if Lamar's receivers caught more passes, I wonder how crazy his #s would look. So outside of his physical tangles, not much else to like. How you could consider him a top 10 pick is alarming. Yes, the drop rate is subjective, and his receivers at times had trouble getting separation, but he misses easy passes all of the time. Does Allen throw a catchable ball consistently? Or is it just a fast ball each time? EDIT - ADJUSTED COMP % --- man I love reddit Rosen: 62.5 + 11.01 = 73.51% Jackson: 59.1 + 12.04 = 71.14% Darnold: 63.1 + 6.81 = 69.91% Allen: 56.3 + 7.84 = 64.24%
I was hesitant about Mayfield being a QB worth taking in the first round before the season started. Now, I'm all for taking him if he's still there when we pick. To me, Allen is not a 1st round QB, but some team might take a chance on him. Hoping it's not the Jets.
Flawed numbers. Assigning 100% completion rate to all these guys does nothing for the comparison. You would need to increase/decrease their completion percentage by the median of all the numbers listed for it to be more accurate, IMO. Also, the "dropped %" doesn't tell the story if the ball was thrown well or not.
I use statistics to back up what I watched and for the most part. Yes subjective, but can be used to backup what you see. What I saw was a QB that struggles short to intermediate, can make a great throw down the field but far too inconsistent and that is not due to his help. Allen doesn't throw with anticipation especially in the short range. The help excuse can be used for the majority of the QBs not named Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. Lamar Jackson and Rosen didn't have much help either and played superior competition week in and week out. So the excuse for Allen's supporting cast gets more and more less credible by the day. Allen did not raise his level of play against better competition.
^ No disagreement w/r/t Allen. I'm specifically taking exception to moving all QBs completion numbers to 100% and then comparing them against each other. It doesn't tell the true story.
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At what point does his glaring lack of accuracy start to impact his stock or does some team take him top 6 anyway?
Mayock on the NFLB sweatin Josh Allen, doing some major PR work. I hope the Browns eat that shit up for breakfast. Allen has 1 speed on his passes and it's a super fast ball. Dude threw a 66 MPH ball.
IDK from what I hear, Dorsey was the one who got the Chiefs to trade up for Mahomes. I'd trust his QB judgement and if Allen is a dud, he won't take him. I'm sure Maccagnan bites if he's there at 6 though.
Mahomes is better then Josh Allen. Was more consistent accuracy wise on a game by game basis. Plus, the Chiefs they only needed a QB, they were able to make that transaction you know? Alex Smith is overrated.
Good article. Stay the hell away. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/1/26/16932920/josh-allen-wyoming-quarterback-hype-nfl-draft
People tend to drop passes when you chuck footballs 65 MPH at them from 10 feet away. Arm strength means nothing if you don’t know how to use it. Also LOL that Mayfield had a higher drop percentage than Allen despite the fact his completion percentage is 14 points higher and Allen gets all the excuses. Join me, friends.
Totally agree with the bold; I mentioned something to that effect in the Senior Bowl News thread. He was accurate whenever he wasn't gunning the ball. That said I feel that's something that should be relatively easy to coach out of a player. This week is almost a microcosm of that point. He started out the fist couple of practices spraying the ball all over trying to show off that big arm, feeding into the inaccurate label. In the later practices, he began to taking a bit off in the process looking like the 1st round pick many project him as. The question becomes does he revert to the erratic fast ball once the bullets are live and under pressure? Curious to see if he goes back to that in the game.
True but Sanchez was just plain inaccurate on short throws it wasn't because he was throwing them too hard.
It’s weird. Sanchez was a body thrower, which is usually a good thing. Thing with Sanchez is that his balance was dogshit so when he was body throwing he sailed balls.
