Has a highly drafted Jets TE EVER really worked out? I mean like... ever? Kyle Brady, Keller, Amaro.... seems like there was one other disaster taken when all the fans thought a QB was coming.
More like [the guys Idzik missed] Round 1: Derek Carr/Demarcus Lawrence/Ha-Ha Clinton Dix Round 2: Davante Adams/Jarvis Landry/Allen Robinson/Justin Britt Round 3: Gabe Jackson/Trai Turner/Devonta Freeman It is one thing to miss [one] kid. John missed every single one of them. It takes a special kind of talent to be this retarded and STILL get a Jets GM job. [Or more likely, that's why he got the Jets GM job. Because was he was exceptionally retarded.]
I remember thinking before the draft that this was a pivotal draft. That draft could have made our team virtually over night if Idzik had known WTF he was doing. I still think to this day that Idzik must have trouble showing his face in public. What's worse is his fake tears during the mid season PC. He even sucks as an actor. He damn sure tried to save his job because he liked the money and prestige. However, there wasn't a single fucking person that fell for that POS's pleas.
And honestly it's debatable as to whether the same thing is/isn't playing out before our very eyes with this front office? Mac has shown nothing to indicate he's some sort of master talent evaluator. Now, I do think objectively we can credit him with breaking the 2nd round curse. Marcus Maye is a pretty good player. But how many players has Mac drafted that jump off the page? Are there any? Because I don't see that. Even Leo wasn't exactly a superb player in 2017. Besides those BPA picks that have been so so, by my count he has Marcus Maye as a true credit to his scouting. If you're building a SB winning franchise, how Mac picks are we looking at that are the nitty gritty building blocks?
30 other teams also missed on those players. It's easy to look at it in hindsight, but not really fair. For all we know another GM would have been just as bad as Idzik. The draft is mostly a crapshoot.
Dustin Keller was decent. He led the team in receptions one year. Sanchez just always threw the ball behind him. If he didn't have that bad leg injury, he'd probably still be playing.
You're not actually defending him are you? That would be like defending the idea that Rich Kotite is a great HC.
Keller wasn't really a true TE though. More like an H back. Keller wasn't the guy you'd keep on the field for an obvious running play.
No he was horrible, I just find that you can't judge draft talent in hindsight like that. Freeman and Derek Carr would have been top 5 picks if we redid that draft. It's silly to look at it that way, because GMs can't look at it that way at the time of the draft. It's easy to point em out after the fact.
True, but they shouldn't have been sold on Geno Smith because of the way he finished the 2013 season.
Yeah, but Geno showed flashes that year, he had at least earned a chance. Again, it's easy to judge the call in hindsight.
I've been laughed off this forum in the past for stating that owners who really want to win will put more money into scouting and coaching. Player's pay is capped, so all teams are equal. But owners can spend what ever they want on coaching and scouting. In my opinion, teams obviously don't know much about players taken after the 3rd round. Most times they've never even met them. If I owned a team, I'd triple my scouting budget and have eyes on every college team, every game, every practice. I'd be interviewing every High School coach of any player I was considering.....on and on. It's hard to find a diamond in the rough from and easy chair 3000 miles away, and that's how 99% of scouting is done. And don't even get me started on coaching. How can teams draft a raw but talented TE in the 2nd round and never once assign a position coach to work with him??? Just one of many examples.
