I Honestly don’t know ....hears what I’m looking at....Geno Smith has all the tools could run and he has a strong arm but he had a terrible attitude not mature...Josh Allen is supposed to be a really good kid and a hard worker I’m going with that
What it boils down to is whether you trust our scouting enough to take the right QB, be it at #6, or through a trade up or trade down. After the Hack debacle, I don't. Given our cap situation, I believe it's likely that we make a run after a veteran QB like Cousins/Luck/Smith. That would free us up to draft the best available at 6. Then draft another project QB in rounds 2-4.
For those pushing for Alex Smith, you do realize if that happens we would have essentially gift wrapped the Chiefs their FQB of the future by passing on Mahomes then sign or even worse trade for the guy he replaces. It's like trading in your new car for a used one. Who the fuck does that?
And I understand you being skeptical but think about this Hackenburg was a Reach with the second round pick all the expert said that... no one agreed with picking this guy in the second row his last few years he couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn in college that hasn’t changed same things were said about Petty .... accuracy issues that hasn’t changed I don’t like cousins....You might as well bring back Neil O’Donnell same player....
Care to explain the comparison between Cousins & O’Donnell? cause other than both possibly being FA QBs I don’t see a comparison at all.
It isn't so much the reach that I have a problem with - it's the lousy talent evaluation. Missing that badly is a clue that this FO can't evaluate QB talent. There are certainly other factors like the pressure of playing in NY, but Hack's failure, in spite of being given every opportunity, really makes me shy away from wanting to spend a high pick on a QB.
Comparing Kirk Cousins to Neil O'Donnell is just people's way of letting the rest of us know they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
I think January 15th will help dicate our offseason. It is the last day to declare. If Darnold stays at USC it's 3 qbs at the top. I think then we might not get one. That will also affect teams and the free agent qbs. I think Cousins might go to Denver. Super Bowl defense. Two really good receivers. A division he can go and win in. So March 14th will dictate it. I think if Darnold comes out and the 4 qbs are there the Jets sign a Bridgewater type player and draft one of the qbs. If he does not then i could see them go after Cousins. A decision on January 15th could decide what we do this offseason.
Does John Elway want to develop a QB or is he more likely to go for a Cousins or Smith? He’s only two years from a Super Bowl. Is he rebuilding or does he think he’s simply a competent QB away from being a contender again? I think it’s much more likely the latter and he goes after a free agent QB rather than drafting a rookie which would mean they would be conceding the rest of the team is also likely going to be rebuilt.
January 15th should not leave any GM quaking..whatever QBs are out there: Rudolf Falk Rosen DArnold Mayfield identify the BEST and try to get that player on the Jets....bout friggin time we offer 5 picks or whatever else it takes BUT GET IT DONE
how old were you when the Jets signed Neil O'Donnell as a free agent?? I ask this because O'Donnell had every bit the credentials Cousins had, even more so, when the Jets dropped $25 mil in free agency on him (back then that was a lot). this doesn't mean Cousins will turn out to be the flop signing O'Donnell was, and for the record I like Cousins, but to suggest Kirk in 2018 is far better and less risky than O'Donnell in 1996 is wrong. O'Donnell actually was more accomplished at the time and I think he had more arm talent
im not so sure, I think if Darnold stays in school, Denver will push for Cousins. I think they will hesitate on Mayfield due to whiffing on Paxton Lynch
Well that is obviously a risk. History has shown pretty clearly that evaluating these quarterbacks going from college to the NFL is not by any means an exact science or sure shot. Any one of these guys could not work out. That is why if the decision was totally up to be I'd probably be a pussy and (at least try to) go the Kirk Cousins route since he could be acquired for "only" money and then use the #6 pick on something like the Penn State RB or stud WR. That way there you get a QB who you know for an absolute beyond shadow of doubt fact will be at least a solid B+/A- type and you get another potential impact star type (which this offense hasn't had since Santonio Holmes basically) to boot. But when I go into my happy place I don't see Josh Allen failing. I see him kicking ass and leading the Jets for 10 years. If we end up drafting a guy not named Rosen or Darnold I hope he's the one.
Neil O'Donnell 1993: Yards 8th, TDs 14th, QB Ratings 14th 1994: Yards 19th, TDs 21st, QB Rating 14th 1995: Yards 17th, TDs 15th, QB Rating 12th Three year average rankings: 15th in Yards, 17th in TDs, and 13th in QB Rating Cousins 2015: Yards 10th, TDs 14th, QB Rating 5th 2016: Yards 3rd, TDs 13th, QB Rating 7th 2017: Yards 7th, TDs 8th, QB Rating 12th Three year average rankings: 7th in Yards, 12th in TDs, and 8th in QB Rating Cousins is better compared to QBs at his time than O'Donnell was in 1996.
Come on now... Neil O'Donnell had better credentials than Cousins currently does? Because he played in playoff games? Cousins is the far better QB than O'Donnell was heading into 96 (I was 12 btw, I remember it pretty vividly). O'Donnell was coming off a dogshit postseason performance and had been mediocre at best up until that point. Another poster just pointed it out statistically... there is really no comparison.
