Brother I’m sorry if I Offered you... for the record I like Ken O’Brian you could make the argument he was the second best quarterback after Namath in jet history ... he had a BIG time arm and we did have success with him I was at the Monday night game I believe it was against Miami where he threw for over 400 yards hitting Wesley walker.... my post are not a means to knock him ..... I lived in Uniondale at the time and when Marino slip in the draft he was the I wanted..... I’m sure you know at that time I wasn’t the only one..... the New York papers kill the Jets for passing on Marino ... no one knew O’Brian at the time .... again I like Kenny O ..... If Rex Ryan had him as a quarterback we would have gotten to at least one SB
With two second rounders pretend for the moment that our front office plans to take our QB at some point in round two (or even to trade back up into round one). Now that the franchise QB box has been checked off let's talk pass rushers. Assuming all of them are available when our pick is up is taking Bradley Chubb at # 6 is a no brainer or could trading down to select Arden Key, Clelin Ferrell, or another OLB make any sense?
It goes both ways. There are plenty of examples of trading up not working out. To me, it's all about getting the guy you want. If you think player X is the right guy and you can trade up to get him, you do it. If you think you can get the right guy by staying put, you do that. There is no definitive right way to go. At the end of the day, a couple of teams will get a franchise QB and the rest probably won't.
Mac can’t get away with the trying to trade back into round 1 for a QB again. He is in prime position to again get a QB, he can’t blow the opportunity again. I gotta imagine his job depends on finding a potential franchise QB this draft/offseason.
Yeah, agreed. I think if you feel Rosen, Darnold, Allen, Mayfield or even Jackson are your franchise guy, you go get them this year. QB has been a problem too long for this franchise. Need to take a risk. A 2nd on Hack and a 4th on Petty were risks, but small ones. Looks like they did not work out. Need to take a big risk now.
I generally agree. If the Jets like a QB and they don't think he is going to fall to them, I really want them to trade up. My fear is that Mac/Bowles will go hard after Cousins instead.
Totally agree. As nice of a player as Jamal Adams may turn out to be, it's pretty obvious that the Jets should have just taken Watson last year (hindsight is 20/20, of course). This is the second straight year that Mac gets to pick in the top 10. Simply put, Mac can't miss out on a top QB prospect again. If he does and a guy like Cousins doesn't immediately make the playoffs here, he's done.
I see Denver as a potential landing spot for Cousins...I don't think Elway wants to wait a year or 2 to have a QB reach his potential. Denver was the place where Manning went on the wrong side of 30 so I can totally see him doing everything to get Cousins on board.
What "D" player led his team to the SB? Houston took JJ Watt 5 years ago...how many SBs have they played in? The Browns took Garrett #1 last year...what was their record this year again? And we took Adams at #6 and how many games did he win for us? Yes, these players are great, and they do make an impact, but not even near the impact a great QB or even a RB or WR make. We've drafted "D" first for a decade and how many rings have we won? It's long past time to change the philosophy.
I think we have more cap space then them but I'm not 100% sure.We have the ability to land him if we really want him
i would think trade talk won’t heat up till after the scouting combine .... we could flip this years pick with the colts or the browns this way there not siding down that far plus give up one of or 2 second round picks plus another first round next season..... but we must be sold on that player to give up that much..... as I’ve stated before IF what I’ve read is true I want josh Allen.... he has to be there..... I don’t make the trade if he’s not.... I’m talking draft day trade ..... it’s a gut feeling on my part
The problem with the New York Jets and every other bottom feeder team is attracting a high profile free agent is like pulling teeth whereas Denver is a QB away from the playoffs with a top-flight defense. Some players want not just the money but the chance of the Superbowl.
I was adding a year too much he's 37, haha....I could only guess what Elway would do but the pedigree has something to argue over. But I always thought Peyton was the better of the 2.
Mike Maccagnan needs to do his due diligence and call everyone ahead of him. The Browns may say no, but you have to ask. I already know the typical regurgitated replies I'll get from fans who think the Giants will never trade with the Jets. I don't care. You make the call to Gettleman. Colts are probably the favorite for a team that Maccagnan could pull off a trade with. Everyone is pretty much predicting that Darnold and Rosen both come out, and will be gone by the first two picks. However, things could change between now and the combine, the pro days, and the team visits. There is a chance Darnold and/or Rosen fall. So here is my plan a, b, c, d, e, and f. PLAN A: Call up the Browns and offer our 1st (6), both 2nd rd picks (37,49), and our 1st in the 2019 draft. The Browns pick is worth 3,000 points according to the draft value chart. The Jets top 3 picks (6, 37, 49) are worth 2,540 points. I believe next year's first round pick could be enough to push the Browns over the edge. PLAN B: Call up the Giants and offer almost the same package you offered the Browns, but minus our 2nd rd (37th) pick. Giants pick is worth 2,600 points according to the draft value chart. The Jets 6th pick and 49th pick are worth 2,010 points. It's highly unlikely we trade with the Giants just because we never do, but what does it hurt to try. PLAN C: Let the Colts know, that you would be willing to trade them your 6 and 37th picks along with next year's 2nd round pick, should the qb you want (let's say it's Rosen) fall to pick 3. The Colts 3rd pick is worth 2,200 points, which is 600 points more than the Jets 6th pick. The 37th pick is worth 530 points. That's only 70 points off. Surely next year's 2nd would be pretty enticing. I have no problem sacrificing the 2nd round picks...never seem to be good picking in that round anyways. PLAN D: The Browns already rejected you for the top overall pick, but they know you're interested in either of those quarterbacks should they make it to the 4th pick. The 4th pick is worth 200 more points than the Jets 6th pick. The Browns want the Jets 6th and 37th pick or no deal. Pull the trigger. Have this deal already worked before hand or no deal. PLAN E: Somehow, we don't know why, one of those QB's (Darnold or Rosen) has fallen all the way to John Elway, but he's not interested. He's got a thing for Lamar Jackson. The Broncos pick is worth 100 more points than yours. You throw Elway our 49th pick and he takes it. Draft the guy you want. You basically traded your first and Sheldon Richardson for your franchise quarterback....you signed Richardson back in free agency, so it's like you didn't trade him at all. lol PLAN F: Mac gets rejected more than a red headed step child. Rosen and Darnold are gone. Mayfield isn't BPA. Nope. BPA is Arden Key. The streak continues.
