The first part of this post is true. Petty never had to call plays at Baylor and played in a shotgun formation, so didn't have to learn all the drops and timings. His reads were usually simple one-reads. Your last statement is not a fact and is utter BS. Petty was not inaccurate coming out of college at Baylor. Petty's lowest completion percentage at Baylor was 62%. His career completion percentage was 62.7%. You completely ignore that a lot of throws were downfield and were not short dumpoffs, which has a negative effect on completion percentage. You're better than this. Petty has enough wrong with his play without your making up shit. I believe his poor accuracy is due to lack of comfort in the WCO and he's still having to think too much. Petty is a square peg the Jets are trying to fit into a round hole. I think he would be much better in a spread offense. With Gailey here, I think that's why Mac drafted Petty. Little did Mac know that Petty would do little or nothing to help Petty develop for two years, and then Petty would have to change to the most complex system using complex drops and timings. It's obvious that Petty doesn't fit in a WCO. He might not fit in any NFL offense, but for certain, it's not the WCO.
That's fine. It's become apparent to me that Petty still hasn't learned/mastered the WCO and may never. He never had to play QB using those complex drops, timing and reads. Some QBs can make the adjustment and learn those things in the NFL, but most can't. There's no shame in that. I'm sure that Mac drafted him because Gailey was here and was running a spread-type offense. Unfortunately, Gailey didn't give a whit about developing Petty, Gailey retired, and now we run the WCO. If Petty were only 22-23, perhaps he could master those concepts in time, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is older, and obviously not the answer for the Jets. The best thing the Jets can do is just to move on. I don't know if Petty will be able to latch on with another team, but if not, he needs to move on with his life, and the Jets need to find QBs who excel in the WCO if that's one they plan on continuing to run. Better yet, they need to find a QB they really like and believe in, and then shape the system around that QB's strengths, what he does well. I realize that's a novel concept for the Jets, but it's what needs to happen.
Hey dickhead maybe just fucking maybe if you read my fucking posts before commenting you would see that I said the fucking opposite, you utter imbecile, now I may be wrong but unless Bowles is the fucking QB coach then I didn't blame him, now take your fucking wank picture and fuck off back under your rock. It was right there in the first sentence btw "It has nothing to do with giving Bowles his papers" followed up with blaming the QB Coaches, now again kindly fuck off and go and pester somebody else and comeback when you have a valid argument with me.
lmao, I have so much fun doing this ... I read your posts is this not what you said? And I responded by saying it's not Bowles fault Petty sucks. Its not the QB coach, it's not Jesus Christ's fault ... its Mac for drafting a shitty QB. All that cursing and being mad at absolutely nothing *insert batman slap picture here* Don't worry he will be released after this off-season. So whose fault Petty sucks?
A professional coach is the QB coach also, maybe if you link one sentence into another and read it in a full post but then you also skipped right past the not about Bowles line, so that would rule him out of the picture for your scenario, it really isn't rocket science and again for the very slow amongst you. It wasn't a defence of Petty, it was about the worry of what the said QB coaches will do to any prospect that we will draft next, again it was all in the post, if only you read them properly. So you can keep on providing all the fun to the rest of the forum all you like, you are the one that looks like a fucking dumbass twat that can't read. Now piss off and insert the batman slap up your fat arse.
Sadly, you are not better than this. First of CMP% does not tell you how accurate a passer a QB is. You can scheme your way to 60%+. Second 62% in Baylor's bubble screen laden Spread that creates wide open opportunities it pretty pathetic. Not to mention he was playing in the no defense Big 12. Furthermore, Petty's ball placement when he did complete passes was routinely poor.
I will give you another go dickhead, from the above post that you quoted, please highlight the bit where I totally blame Bowles for Petty not being able to throw it 3 yards, take your time if you like.
Oh really, you didn't place blame on the CS? That include Bowles, Bowles is the one that hired them. What you are saying is Bowles QB Coach hire fucking sucks, therefore you are blaming Bowles. Directly or indirectly. Bowles is responsible for the shitty defensive coordinator and he's also responsible for the bad QB coach you are referring to. I think Bates has done very good here. So tell me more, about how Bowles and the CS isn't responsible per your assessment, "Bowles and the QB Coach SUCK!, But Mac ya know he made a few bad selections, but if they were properly coached ..." Fuck outta here! That's why you get the batman slap ... are these NOT your words? WHO ARE YOU BLAMING? WHY DOES PETTY STILL SUCK? WHOSE FAULT IS IT. Get a clue, or do you need 1 for 200?
you are being far too sensitive ... I ain't cursing you out, I am legit fucking with you posting batman memes. Here's a tip, buy a bong, pack some weed in it and smoke it cause you ain't gonna make it getting this mad over a batman meme
You make some good points K'OB..I don't think people are being disrespectful or as angry as you are right now I am not even sure who you are replying to there..lol TBH I have been on the receiving end of insults e.g. " Dickhead" Just not necessary Mr Englishman
Ok, so you are worried about the qb coach teaching a new qb because of how petty looked but are ignoring how he made mccown look. Granted not a complete apples to apples comparison but still, you can’t ignore how much better mccown has played compared to his career averages and dismiss the coach completely. Unless of course you have an agenda, than you can do whatever you wish
That isn't what boils me up, what boils me up is people not reading my posts properly and like your latest effort above try to imply something has been said for your own narrative, I did not blame Bowles and that is what you quoted me as saying, I have every right to reply and defend that, you now say I am blaming Bowles by association as he hired the coach FFS tell you what why don't I just blame Woody and save us all a fucking hour. I don't trust the QB coach to coach the next QB drafted it is as plain and simple as that, if you want to take that as a dig at Bowles be my fucking guest.
That's all you had to say, but lets be serious Petty sucks because of Petty, not because of the QB coach that Bowles BTW hired
You really think the QB coach improved a 38yo man who has been a QB all his life ? Seriously ? All I said was Petty has regressed this season and Hack must have regressed or they would have shipped Petty out of that last game when he could barely hit a Jet with a pass, surely to fuck this has to have in some way shape or form be down to the coaching, if the coaching was good we would have improved players, even if it was a slight improvement (not enough improvement to make them great QB's) but improvement in foot work and be able to hit an open receiver from 5 yards away, which Petty still can't manage it would seem. Are you happy to let them fiddle with another young round 1 prospect ? I would be worried myself, others are worried and when they post the same or similar they do not get attacked from all angles, fuck me it is a forum to discuss things not attack people for having an independent thought, I don't mind if people don't agree but I mind when they don't read the post they quote and then twist and turn the thread to imply others things have been said when blatantly they have not. So we have one guy who thinks my posts where all about defending Petty = wrong Another who thinks I am blaming it all on Bowles = wrong I am only surmising and offering an opinion as to why i think it has gone wrong, nobody on here knows WTF goes on behind closed doors at training, I am not even sure you do training like I think of training coming from a soccer background, in soccer Petty and Hack would have been coached and trained 5 out of 7 days a week for two years, in all reality if a soccer player had shown little promise as these then he would be now playing in the bottom division or picking up an unemployment card more than likely.
Nobody will know how they would have turned out with better coaches, the rest of your post is just semantics, like I said below if we go down that road of you can't blame the QB coach as Bowles hired him so it is Bowles is fault, then it is all Woody's fault. Nice bit of pedantry and the discussion with you is closed as it is a waste of my life, cya.
BTW I said that I did, in the original post you quoted and in one of the other ones either earlier than that I said Petty and Hack were finished, go figure.
It's not about them being finished, it's about accountability. Petty with the greatest coach in the world would still suck, you are underestimating the lack of things a QB learned at Baylor. Then again, people think they know everything, yet can't even tell me how a prospect was evaluated prior to the draft. While we are blaming coaches, we can blame Korean Jesus too, dude was a total asshat. Have a good day!
I have never said I know everything and from the conversation going from you misquoting me to you telling me I can't tell you how a prospect was evaluated and blaming korean jesus hmmm. One when did you ask me to tell you how a prospect was evaluated ? and secondly what has that got to do with somebody being worried that the QB coach might make another arse job of the next QB prospect that comes to the Jets ? You are an odd fucker to chat with as you just flit from post to post, quoting away and then adding little extras that have never been discussed, then you sort of become a little friendly and then you go shithead again, like I said you are a weird fucker and why because somebody doesn't agree with you, this isn't the first time you became an arse on the topic of QB coaching and in the last one you ended up saying that Hack and Petty had improved in some kind of defence of said QB coach, well after these few games that is blatantly untrue and according to your goodself Petty is now back to sucking. Have a good night I am off to watch some soccer instead.
