Lol, funny post....The Giant have a good young QB on their roster, Davis Webb. I will be surprised if they grab a QB with their high draft pick, I believe you will see Giants address their oline by grabbing the OT from Texas or Saquan Barkley RB to help Eli or Webb, they need help on the offensive side of the ball. I do see them grabbing another QB in the later rounds though.
People want to give Mac all of these graces, but he has been a mediocre GM as well, I give him credit for Maye and that's about it. Bowles has been mediocre too as a HC, but fans are crazy if they think they cannot improve; when they have done so from last year. Bowles is a better coach today and Mac is a better GM today. They both were hired together and they should be fired together if they cannot work together. They came on board knowing they had to work with one another, no doubt in my mind Mac also signed off on working with Bowles otherwise perhaps he doesn't take the job. No sense in wishing on a Football OPS when it will never happen, better off using your energy as fans to think about how to improve the football team or look for the next big GM / HC combo if needed.
And I first mentioned Mac passed on Watson for the SAFEty pick. Jamal Adams is a safety and was the player most "experts" thought was a top 5 pick. The safe pick can't go wrong prospect. Based on your first reply it appeared you didn't understand my play on words. The fact is picking Jamal Adams over Deshaun Watson took no brains or balls. I beat my draft Deshaun Watson drum all the way leading up to the draft. He was having a historical rookie season for the Texans before his freak injury in PRACTICE. Bottom line 101, Mediocre Mac made a mistake passing on Watson for your boy. You of course won't say he did, because you were COMPLETELY AGAINST drafting Watson. Remember?
Jamal Adams was an absolute stud at LSU. I understood your words, you need to better express your point. Like I said before, there was a reason why many thought Watson wouldn't be good and I provided you those reasons before. I don't see you commenting on those so I am going to assume you didn't watch him play in college. My boy? Actually, I wanted Malik Hooker, the next Ed Reed .... Adams is a great stud too and I am very happy with him. This class had probably the best safety prospects in a long time and in today's league you need a good safety. I was looking forward to this class more-so anyway. I was actually interested in Kizer from last year's class. Cleveland is a cesspool.
Of course I watched Watson play college football. I also watched him shred Alabama's defense, not once, but twice on the biggest stage in college football. Sometimes I think what happens with these scouts and wannabe gm's is they get mental paralysis from over analysis. They can't see the forest from the trees. Watson having that freak injury in practice just may have saved Medioce Mac's job. Meanwhile, Jamal Adams runs his mouth like he's actually done something special this year. Watson let his play do the talking. Until proven otherwise, Jamal Adams will be best known as the guy the franchise quarterback starving Jets passed up for Deshaun Watson.
Watson the prospect had very questionable issues in terms of arm strength and velocity. But I am sure you already knew that right? It's not an overanalysis actually, we have yet to see Watson play in a cold weather game. Jets need a QB with the arm strength to slice through the winds. Jamal Adams has made some big plays this year already. Forcing fumbles, game saving tackles, HUGE in run support. His time will come and be one of the better safeties in this league. Mac probably thought Hack would improve, obviously wasn't the case. Time to re-evaluate the position again.
I actually think Mahomes will be better than Watson. Adams was the kind of loser pick a loser franchise makes.
Sort of like Eric Berry being drafted by the Chiefs right? Mahomes hasn't played 1 snap yet you want to crown him. I'll take this class over last years.
That's OK. I understand how those things go. I've had a hard time finding articles I've read before, and wound up not being able to find them. I appreciate the effort!
Cool, you can play the hindsight game, good for you. That makes you a very credible poster around here. However, it seems you are having issues evaluating Watson as a prospect. But no matter, here's a bone
In Woody's typical cluenessess, he created another Rex/Idzik in the way he has done things and set up the org chart. Woody is a damn moron and we'd be a lot better off if he'd get caught having sex with sheep in England and the NFL forced him to sell the team.
Mahomes and Watson are going to be far superior prospects than any of the QBs left for the Jets at 8 or 10. Also Berry and Adams are two totally different players. Berry was a coverage first safety like Hooker. Adams is a rich mans Rontez Miles. I dont think adams is worth anything more than a 3rd rounder in todays nfl since he is a liability in coverage. Not to mention his tackling is pretty terrible as well. Rewatch the san diego game and tell me he wasnt the worst player on the field.
I saw those two games. I also saw a lot of other games that Watson started for Clemson. I didn't think Watson was a great prospect for the Jets. I still don't think he has the arm strength to play in the northeast winters. He had and has leadership and character. His accuracy wasn't the best, and Clemson got in some holes and had to make comebacks because Watson started slow in some games. I thought he'd be a decent to pretty good starter for some teams in the NFL, but I wanted better than that for the Jets. Let's see how Watson next year, when teams have film on him and have a chance to adapt.
I'll take Lamar Jackson over both of them. I also like Kurt Benkert a lot as well. Darnold / Rosen could drop, I would absolutely take both over them. 2018 class > 2017 class. Berry doesn't have nearly the ball skills Hooker had coming out of college. Berry I remember him being a safety that can do it all. Give Adams a year of studying his tape and I think you will see a Troy Polamalu type player. Adams is out there playing multiple positions, he will need time to develop. I don't remember seeing Miles have nearly the pursuit, range or ability to force fumbles like Adams can.
Exactly. Also show me a Leonard Williams highlight reel during his time with the Jets. Wake me up when either of these two “studs” take over a game.
You want our next HC to be someone who has only 2 years experience as an OC, one with the Browns and the other at San Jose State, and he's bounced around from the NFL to colleges as a QB Coach????
I don't think either of them are particularly good at their jobs. I also think Maccagnan has done more as a GM than Bowles has done as an HC, but a lot of this also has to do with players available to coach, and ultimately who is playing QB. Can't give a coach chicken shit and expect to get chicken salad. Biggest questions going forward is who is going to play QB. If you solve that then a lot of things look a ton better. I'd also add that we need to get some O-linemen in here, get an edge rusher, and also a few corners. Some of this needs to be addressed through free agency, while others need to be done through the draft. I think they're both gone next season if the questions above aren't addressed because if they aren't how are we supposed to do better than 5-11? Smoke and mirrors don't make up for no playoff football.
