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  1. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Jamal Adams was the safe pick leading up to the draft. Mac passed on Watson for the safe pick.
     
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    Noam Well-Known Member

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    He did try to trade up for either Goff or Wentz and came awful close to getting the 1st pick so he must have offered quite a bit before the Rams jumped over him.
     
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    Are you somehow one of the few fans / tgg draft experts who thought Watson was a Top 5 pick? Can't say i recall reading about his stock being so high. Or are you just a hindsight guy, who saw Watson having some success and are now enamored, infuriated and irrational that the Jets didn't "reach" for a guy not many experts had ranked in the top of the draft.

    Maybe you've missed this in your raging, (maybe you should sit for this) but he tore his ACL......again (which means more than once). In the words of Nancy Kerrigan, "Why!!!????? Why???!!!"
     
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    Add a "rush" LB, a good RB & another steady CB/Safety... with 90 Million MUST use funds & several high draft picks it can/should be done.
     
  5. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    I was one of the Jets fans who wanted them to draft Deshaun Watson with their 6th pick. After that second performance he had against Alabama in the national championship game, I was completely sold on Deshaun Watson. The draftniks didn't like him that high in the 1st rd. They had Trubisky ranked higher. According to the experts Jamal Adams was the safe pick at 6, just like Leonard Williams was at 6 two years earlier. The way Watson was playing for the Texans this year was very impressive. Not saying he's going to make it to the hall of fame, or that Adams is a bust, but I hope the Jets have the courage to be aggessive in the 2018 Draft, and come away with a franchise quarterback. I am tired of the Jets going down the journeyman quarterback route. Been there done that.
     
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  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Safety? Why in the heck do they need to add another Safety? They have Adams, Mayes, Brooks, Miles and like Middleton who was on IR this year. They have absolutely zero need at Safety. CB they need. ILB they need. OL they need in a big way.
     
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  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    How do you know he came "awful close to getting the 1st pick"? I've not ever read or heard anything to that extent before. Source? Thanks in advance.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it was just a matter of going with the "safe" pick. I don't think Watson would have had the same success here. O'Brien knows how to handle QBs, and he built the Texans' offense around what Watson does well. Here, Watson would have been more of a square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

    Further, with the lack of development we've seen from Petty and Hack, Watson may not have learned whatever he needed to in order to play well in the NFL.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    How does this make any sense? Rex got 6 seasons on the basis of making it to 2 AFCCGs. If you think about it objectively, he should have gotten more. What has Bowles done to deserve 6 years let alone 4?
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I'd would have much rather Mahomes but Watson would have worked well in our current offense.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Well Legs, I was going with the "gotta be consistent/can't keep on firing HC's" angle. If we give Bowles 3 more years, hopefully Macc only guarantees 1 and we can send him on his way after another sub-500 finish out of the playoffs. Bowles wins? Bowles stays. Simple as that.. Winning wasn't a metric the Ownership decided to use.. Sad isn't it..

    Bowles did clear the bar Chris Johnson set for him. Although that bar couldn't possibly be lower, Bowles surpassed it and unless Chris decides to contradict himself, Bowles gets another year to show us he can be more than just a motivator.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I would rather have had Mahomes, too. Watson may have worked well, but evidently Mac and Bowles didn't think so or they weren't interested because Mac believed in Hack.

    Do you really think that Morton would have designed his offense around Watson? I don't.

    Think Bowles would have had a clue how to help Watson? I don't.

    Think that Bowles would have risked his job by starting a rookie QB? I don't.
     
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    cman, you know that Mac has no say on Bowles' contract or extension, so Mac has nothing to do with only guaranteeing one year of a 3-year extension.

    As far as the extension itself, I know you're pot-stirring. We both know that Bowles has done nothing to deserve an extension. He ought to be out on his ass already.
     
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    I'm bored ok? I accept that Bowles will get at least one more year and its painful..:(
     
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  15. legler82

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    I think good offensive CSs develop young QBs; I don't put that responsibility on the HC unless he is heavily involved in the offense. The only thing I lay at the feet of the HC with regards to QB development is who the hire as their OC and QB coach.
     
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  16. NCJetsfan

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    :p I understand, my friend! Carry on.
     
  17. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Disagree with the bold. Where would the Rams be if they followed your approach?
     
  18. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    While the OC and QBC have the primary responsibility for developing the QBs, the HC damn sure better be able to know when they aren't doing their job. He can't be completely hands-off and clueless which Rex and now Bowles both are.
     
  19. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    I see three alternatives

    1. Bowles renewed with an escape clause after 1 year (at which point both he & MaC go)

    2. Bowles canned & Mac hires a first timer, guaranteeing himself another three years...(Tannenbaum redux)

    3. Bowles & Mac both canned...replaced by a big name who gets carte blanche
     
  20. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Mac passed on 2 possible FQBs in the draft first.
     
  21. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    We have a new offensive CS which Bowles hired. So is he really that hands-off and clueless?
     

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