Actually we did see that level of play again when geno carved up the dolphins with a perfect qb rating week 17 of 2014.
Oh yeah, my mistake. Last game of Rex's Jet coaching career. Good thing the Jets kept him under center for 24 games. To watch Geno throw that gem.... Give me a f'ing break.
Ok, say Petty doesn't have it. But you are trivializing this issue, its much more complicated than that. Coaches are teachers. Your approach is sort of what that moron Fisher did with Goff last year. He didn't have the time to develop him, even though he was a first rounder. Goff simply didn't fit his idiotic scheme. Goff would still be on the bench if its was up to that dinosaur. So apparently across, Sanchez ,and Geno, and Petty, and Hack, it was a always a bad draft, never incompetent coaching. Lets repeat this story again with the next QB, and the next one. Who knows if we ever get one? One that seizes the moment right away, thus avoiding busy coaches unwilling to spend the time to really develop young players. What good is this CS for then? clearly not building a better team in the future. Nor building a winner in the present.
There's a scenario for each QB IMO, I think the last one that really had a shot was Sanchez, but inept coaching ruined him ... however that is the previous regime ... this regime specifically drafted 2 bad QBs that didn't develop. Coaching won't save them.
Based on your user name I'm guessing you get to see Goff a lot; it's probably why he came to your mind but no offense; he's an absolutely terrible comparison. You can't compare a 4th round pick to a 1st round one, let alone one taken overall, let alone one traded up for. The amount the Rams have invested in Goff require that do everything in their power to yield a return. Petty, like Geno before him, has already been given exponentially more opportunity then his fellow 4th rounders. No one in there right mind should fault a CS over the delayed development of a day 3 QB.
OK I buy that. Where are we with Hack as the day two guy?. Im not convinced there either. I sure hope we have a day one guy in 2018. It would be a well worth investment.
By all means start Petty the last two games. Or start Hack. But this offseason we need to get a real QB.
Agree with this 101. I'm still not sure about Hack. I just didn't get enough out of pre season to determine if another year can make the difference or not. If we don't draft a QB this year I'm going to loose it.
I'm not comparing them by the way. I'm simply noting that a lousy coach can be the reason as much as the player. Goff needed someone that developed a plan to emphasize his strengths...and that made all the difference in the world. I'm totally frustrated that we don't seem to find a QB worth developing for the Jets.
Lol. You remember what happened with the "Enough with the brainless Schottenheimer bashing" thread? It eventually was replaced by another popular thread: "Brainlessly bash former OC Brian Schottenheimer." Somehow I fear history may repeat itself.
No one is making excuses. We're just being rational, intelligent fans as opposed to you and others who were ready to give up on him from day one. Even if his ceiling is just being a solid backup, that is something the Jets haven't had in 20 years. He has had shit coaching and a dumbass excuse for a HC who has done nothing to help develop him.
Read my old posts, I've been all about giving Petty a chance. But by now a rational, intelligent fan would notice Petty hasn't done anything resembling a good QB other than putting on his uniform. And coaching isn't the problem; McCown just had a career year under Morton.
I agree with you that Sanchez was ruined by bad coaching, but also by bad decisions by the GM. Neither Petty nor Hack were FQBs IMO, but jesus, if you take a player, at least try to develop him or get rid him and get someone better.
