I think Todd Bowles lost his job yesterday-who replaces him?

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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    As a recovering alcoholic, my experience is that you can't really moderate/control your drinking. Sure, you can for small periods of time, but they won't last. But it's not just when you're actively drinking that's the problem, it's that your judgment is impaired ALL the time, certainly not as badly as when you imbibe, but there is a lingering effect that carries over in between drinking episodes. And while the drinker may seem okay, they really aren't. You might be amazed at the things someone who is actually legally drunk can do. And then there are "black out drinkers" who can drive, carry on a conversation, etc. and later on when they sober up don't remember a thing, yet they "successfully" performed all these tasks. And while an alcoholic can "function" like this for even long periods of time, if they're an alcoholic sooner or later they'll blow up. Maybe this is why McGloughan has to move on frequently.

    I don't know if he's an alcoholic, and that can only be declared by the alcoholic themselves, but if he is, while he's still drinking, and thinking he can "have a beer now and then", he's a time bomb waiting to blow. There's a saying: "An alcoholic is like a man who has lost his legs...he never grows new ones",meaning once you cross that "invisible line" into being an alcoholic, you can't ever go back, no matter how much time you have between drinks. And if that is the case, I wouldn't want him until after he had a few years of sobriety under his belt. I think there are better candidates out there.
     
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    Keep up the good fight, it's definitely an addiction that's one of the hardest to overcome. Seen it first hand, with family and friends.
     
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    Thanks! I've been sober quite a few years, but I never forget that it only takes one to send me back to hell. As they say: "You're only as far away from a drink as the length of your arm".

    I do hope McGloughan gets that "moment of clarity" and does something before it's not just his career that ends.
     
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    Then I hope he quits. Maybe they squeeze him out by not extending him and he doesn't want a lame duck status for 2018.
     
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    If Reich brings the RPO offense, he's the guy I'd want. It's exciting to watch, and it's a winning system if operated properly.

    (I also think that Jackson will be available at the Jets' spot in the draft, without moving up. And that he -- as well as Anderson and Powell -- would be an absolute perfect fit.)
     
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    Probably a bit unrelated but a few days ago Mike Francesa interviewed Mike Holmgren on his show - Holmgren went on to say that the Jets and Holmgren were very close to signing a deal to bring him in as coach. The only thing that stopped him was his wife did not want to move to New York. Because of that, Holmgren took himself out of the running.

    Holmgren even said that he had a very "nice visit" with Woody and that he was planning on flying back to New York to look things over with the Jets.
     
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    Boomer Esiason gushes over Reich and if I'm not mistaken, Reich was interviewed by the Jets 3 years ago.

    Boomer at the time said that the meeting with Woody went over well.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/01/08/boomer-frank-reich-had-very-good-interview-with-jets/
     
  10. Well said Stay strong buddy.

    It’s so hard to give up drinking. I started majorly slowing down & smoking instead when my career took off & I was finding myself chasing the dragon after long stressful days. I lost a lot of my closest friends in the process. Society’s encouragement for sobriety tends to be skin deep.theyre all for you quitting the booze but come Friday night you’re just a 5th wheel.The perception of 4:20 remains extremely misguided & ignorant..this was a hard lesson for me to learn. But it’s been 1000 times more helpful,functional & healthy than even the vibrant Bloody Mary I ever drank.so if people wanna judge let them.

    I still did drink socially mainly due to singing in a hard rock band.Raunchy,fast living hard rocking. But when my kidneys failed my body started treating beer like it was poison.Just wouldn’t accept it. Others in band were very heavy drinkers.It’s funny..as soon as we all went sober trying to record our demo..that’s when the infighting started & we broke up lol maybe someday I’ll post that stuff on here for the rock fans to hear.We Do still write & record from time to time.

    Once you cross the line of alcoholism drinking is out of the question.Its all about will power.It sounds like you’ve got a good handle on things & that’s encouraging.Hoping ASJ takes the same path & catches 12 TDS a year from Broadway Rosen for the next 10 years!!!
     
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    His team plays hard they just lack talent and experience. Ask any coach of any sport how they evaluate other coaches and they will start with how hard a team plays.
     
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    The Jets have now gone seven seasons without a playoff appearance. The franchise at this point is completely irrelevant and needs to inject some energy into the fanbase.

    Bowles is a good coach who I believe has the ear of his players. Unfortunately he just hasnt won enough games to justify keeping him around for another year IMO.

    Im not a huge fan of Mike McCagnan but I do believe he at least has a plan. Give him a couple of years to see the plan through. That should also include the power to hire his own coach. Having both the GM and the Head Coach report to an incompetent owner is a bad idea.
     
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    Playing hard is good but playing smarter is better. Rex teams played hard and hard for him. But this guy Bowles does not have the attitude, temperment and creativeness to be a head coach. He is uber boring and that would be fine if he were winning but it goes to maybe he's way over his head. The team is unprepared everyweek and that just can't happen at this level.
     
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    Out of Macc and Bowles staying. I would hold my nose and vote for Macc. He has stunk at the drafting process but has hit on some UDFA. The drafting part might be Bowes problem because he hasn't developed them like they should be. He has't gotten hackenberg going at all. No one knows what petty can do. Bowles being joined at the hip with McCown is killing the team.
     
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    Sorry but you may be over your head in evaluating coaches.
     
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    They need more talent. Head coach is irrelevant.
     
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    "Head coach is irrelevant."[/QUOTE]

    Really?
     
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    In the end, it really comes down to what Bill Parcells said: "You are what your record says you are". Bowles has a significant losing record, and that includes the fluke 1st year run. If he were really a good coach, I think he would've won quite a few more games, even with the rosters he's had. Look at all the close games, and late game collapses he's been involved in. Swing 3/4 of them to the W column and he's a great coach. But,,,he's not. If he stays, maybe over the next 3 or 4 years he might become above average, but I don't think that's good enough to win a SB. I'd prefer we cut out losses now with him and get someone who CAN win a SB. Let him do his OJT somewhere else.
     
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    Doubt it predicted Rex, Herm and Mangini leaving never to return. The only one no one saw was Carroll being fired after 1 season and Kottite being hired. Kottite a guy who was just fired by the Eagles after losing 7 straight games. See a trend? So explain your logic for retaining Bowles. I can't wait to read it.
     
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    Thanks for the support! But I do want to clarify one thing you said:

    "ts all about will power."

    Actually it really isn't. If that's all you have going for you, sooner or later you're going to give in. If you're really an alcoholic or addict, you need a strong support network, like one of the 12 Step programs. Because the problem really isn't about drinking. it's about thinking - bad thinking - and using alcohol or drugs to try and deal with the problem that bad thinking creates. Getting truly sober means learning how to live life on life's terms, instead of trying to escape from it. That's what a 12 Step program helps you to do. If you know anyone who's struggling with this disease I recommend checking one of those programs out.

    If you want to chat more about this, PM me.

    Now, if only there was a 12 Step program for being a Jets fan!:p
     
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