petty IMO had a shot already. if anything i'd say play hack but had we started petty or hack form the begining we wouldn't know what we had in anderson or kearse or ASJ. i mean he looked like rodgers on that play, i don't see petty or hack doing anything but getting eaten alive on a play like that
Actually Petty had two shots, one from Suh and one from Wake, What he did not have was a chance to play through five or six games to show what he could do.
he started 4 games in 2016 and played in 6. what we got was 3TDs and 7INTs., half his starts he didn't throw for more then 163 yards and his QBR was 60 and comp% 56.4 more importantly i watched those games and he was painfull to watch
Well, since players never improve, Petty's audition in 2016 proves he'll never, ever be anything close to a NFL Qb. We all know that in 2016, the Jets were the very definition of a great team in synch and marching towards greatness. Gailey and Fitz had the team poised for a SB run, Marshall was all in and Revis of course was his usual team first self. The Oline had 5 all-pros playing on it and the WR's were the best in the league. The team would have made a SB run if it wasn't for Petty in 2016.. Huge mistake not playing Fitz 2.0 all the way to the end of the season.. Since Petty sucks, why hasn't he been cut yet? He'll never develop, always will suck and since his 2016 audition is all there is to go on, he's worthless in a trade. The only question remaining is, why hasn't Petty been released yet? Macc obviously is a idiot for not cutting Petty before now. I'm surprised Bowles allows Petty to suit up every week. Play the geezer until hell freezes over. We got nothing to lose.
like i said i understand hack, but not petty. at least now we know anderson is a beast. we already seen petty and it was bad
he's in his 3rd year now. last year was his 2nd year. he's had plenty of time to grow and couldn't beat out mccown. the 3rd year is usually when players rise. after seeing his performance in season 2 and then seeing he couldn't beat out a 38 year old journeyman who's played for 8 teams in his 3rd year. i'd say i seen enough to know. as far as not being cut, he's cheap on his rookie deal and teams need 3 QBs on the roster so doesn't make sense to cut him when he is a cheap clipboard holder. I'm all for giving hack a shot, but not petty
Bullshit. The QB "Competition" was a sham, and bungled from the start. Hack was force fed the ball and did NOTHING with it. Petty wasn't given a shot at all. This coaching staff is clueless and the way they handled the QB situation in the preseason is proof of that. Pettty's stats last year. GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 5 81 155 52.3 854 5.51 4 62 7 3 41.7 58.4 Oh wait, that's Cousin's stats for 2012, when he was given mop up duty at the end of his 2nd season. The same Kirk Cousins that everyone wants to sign to a huge contract.... I sincerely hope that the Jets cut Petty and he lights it up somewhere else. Petty's Stats last year, his 2nd year in the NFL: GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 6 75 133 56.4 809 6.08 3 52 7 1 16.1 60.0 Please cut the bullshit that this coaching staff is bright enough to see whether Petty is good enough to play due to seeing him in practice. He was never given the chance in the preseason to play against starters. Not his fault, that's on the coaching staff. When he was given the opportunity to play, he lit it up against the only competition he was given the opportunity to play against. He looked much improved to me; his footwork was better, he was going through his progressions and not locking onto the primary receiver, etc. I'm sick of this unending cycle of mediocrity. I had no problem with the player purges in the offseason, provided that they didn't trot out a 38 year old journeyman QB...... They needed to clean house completely, and look to the future. This half-assed rebuilding attempt is why the Jets will continue to be a dumpster fire for the forseeable future.
really? you take the 1 poor year he had? when he started 3 games. how about this as a rookie cousins 101 QBR 60%+ completions , and over 1 TD/INT ratio 3rd year (which is where petty is now and lost out to mccown) 86.4QBR 60%+ completions over 1TD/?INT ratio then year 4-6 (we are in year 6 now for him) QBR of 101, 101, and 97 4k yards, almost 5k yards, and again over 4k yards this year likely 73TDs to 29INTs (almost 3 to 1) also has 12 rushing TDs comp% 66,67 and almost 70 cousins has been a proven FQB over the past 3 years. petty is nothing. it's not even close. you cherry picked 3 games of a 6 year career to make a point. that's piss poor get over the petty love, IDK how you seen something in him nobody else see's including people who watch and coach him every day. he'll i'd bring back brook bollinger to play before i started petty.
I didn't cherry pick anything. I compared both players in their second year. Cousins has been excellent in his last few years. That's my point; he was given a chance to play and he thrived. Petty hasn't been given a real chance. I like Cousins and would have no problem with the Jet's signing him. I just am sick of seeing McCown play in a lost season. This season is over, trotting out McCown over and over again is a waste of time. My point is that Petty wasn't given a fair shot. If you think that the QB competition in the preseason was fair to Petty, that's your opinion, and I disagree.
cousins earned his chance. that's the difference. petty was so bad that we signed a 38 year old journeyman. If cousins was as bad as petty he wouldn't have gotten that chance he did. these coaches watch these players all the time. People like to give bowles shit for not playing petty, but look at it this way how do you go to your team that still has (albeit a slim) chance at the playoffs with the other 52 competitors on the team who all are fighting to win and say i'm gonna bench our QB who has a top 5 comp % in the NFL, 95 QB rating, and a 2-1 TD/INT ratio in favor of someone you all seen and practiced with for 3 years and know what he is (a career backup) just to please some fans.
It has nothing to do with Petty being good or bad. We signed a journeyman and gave him the starting job because Bowles doesn't trust inexperienced QBs. We really have no way to know how good Petty is since Bowles is unwilling to give him snaps in practice. The only thing we learned in camp is that Hack is not ready yet.
You are making an assumption that this coaching staff is competent and able to evaluate QB talent. This staff isn't competent. The way they mishandled the QB's in the preseason should be evidence of that. An ESPN article from the Preseason Clueless Jets Making A Mockery Of QB ‘Competition’ : This was supposed to be an open competition for the job. Instead, coach Todd Bowles, set it up to be about as open as a Russian presidential election. Bowles started Hackenberg for a second consecutive week on Saturday despite no evidence that the reach from the second round of the 2016 draft had earned that right. Against a very talented Giants defense and operating with an overwhelmed offensive line (Pro Football Focus darling right tackle Brandon Shell was manhandled by Giants end Jason Pierre-Paul in the first half) and a pathetic receiving corps, Hackenberg had no chance to succeed. By halftime, the Giants defense outscored their own offense, 16-13. The Jets, meanwhile, got one lousy field goal. Hey, you can’t keep Hackenberg off the scoreboard 35 possessions in a row. In his two quarters against the Giants’ first string, Hackenberg went 8-for-15 for 60 yards with two interceptions that were both returned for touchdowns. This after a 2-for-6, 14-yard debacle in the first half in Detroit the prior week. Hackenberg hasn’t even been good since his freshman season at Penn State in 2013. He basically needed to be Tebow-ed when he turned pro, re-training everything from his footwork to his throwing form. And he’s still nowhere near ready to lead an NFL team. Anyone following this club closely could have come to that conclusion before Bowles handed him the keys to the preseason. I would argue Hackenberg should be behind Petty, who tossed three touchdown passes against the Giants backups before his late fourth-quarter knee injury gave Hackenberg the opportunity to get within a missed two-point conversion of a full comeback. Adam Schefter of ESPN reported that Sunday’s MRI of Petty’s knee revealed a less-severe Grade 1 MCL sprain and that he was hopeful of playing on Thursday in the preseason finale against the Eagles. The first half of the third exhibition is supposed to be the most like a dry run for the games that will count. Few, if any, starters play in the last one. So now that Hackenberg has proven his unsuitability for the prime-time gig, the 38-year-old McCown, if he’s so selected, will go into Week 1 with just that one series under his belt. Bowles downgraded its significance in his postgame remarks. “(McCown) has played in a lot of preseason games,” Bowles said. Not with this new team, playing under a new system installed by its new offensive coordinator. With limited reps to date in team drills (he reportedly played one snap with the starters last week). Who conducts their football business like this? I get that the Jets are in a rebuilding mode, and there is a case to be made that the organization needs to see what Hackenberg is. There’s no better time than the preseason to do it. But not at the full expense of the offense, particularly one like the West Coast system that is predicated on timing. In an interview with ESPN, McCown said, “We have a plan … and I understood going into it what the plan was.” So did General Custer.
