Terror attack in Las Vegas and now Cali

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but a guy who was sure he was smarter than everyone else might be very happy taking his secret of "WHY?" with him. That'll show you bastards!
     
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    But leaving your rants on socmed defies the other actions
     
  3. The Waterboy

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    Could just be they realize their entire background will be, rightfully, torn apart and they don't want it all to come out. Like now they are revealing the Sandy Hook shooter was a pedophile.
     
  4. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Anything is possible. its all just opinion at his point. But personally I don't buy that in any of these cases. I feel this guy was either set up,or wrapped up in something bigger. Too little being released in the most surveilled city in the us.And too much going on ,on those police scanners before and after the shooting.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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  6. The Waterboy

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    It was a trip he has taken before and the head of his union said he already had the trip planned. Renting a car to take a trip is not a big deal as far as I am aware, maybe his car is getting up in mileage or maybe he has reporters hounding him so didn't want them following his car.
     
  7. Br4d

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    If the security guard was involved there's no way the authorities would still be letting him walk around. You have to believe that *everybody* was involved in the conspiracy in order to get much mileage out of it at this point.

    The guy was a sick bastard and he killed a lot of people. Wasn't the first time that happened and definitely isn't going to be the last.
     
  8. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Where was this security guard on 9/11 anyway?

    October 12, 2000 - Wasn't on a small boat approaching the USS Cole, was he?

    I'm just asking random questions with no factual backing. Just making it up like every other tabloid hack reporter.
     
  9. FJF

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    Unless, that’s exactly what they want us to think.
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    well,the official authorities aren't giving you much to back up the contrary. You keep mocking it,yet you'll be the 1st in line to claim the official story is wrong when the cops shoot someone commiting a crime. The majority of eyewitnesses that were there say the official story is bs,but I guess they get no credibility either.

    They sound very confident in the official story,even when the whole Vegas strip is as silent about the incident as a secret Russian city. But I know youre a lib,and regardless of how ridiculous and transparent this would seem,you don't want to lose your white lone wolf shooter narrative.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    its also funny how you call anything that doesn't toe the line tabloid hack etc. That's a lot of faith and trust in official media that tend to tell more of a fictional corporate story at the same time witnesses are silenced throughout the course of history.
     
  12. Greenday4537

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    Rarely have I ever just outright claimed the cops stories were wrong right away. You don't read my posts obviously or else you wouldn't say that. I've defended police plenty of times.

    As for the whole strip being silent, who is there to actually say anything about what actually happened? No one in the crowd could have actually seen anything. Most people didn't witness anything. What is there to mysteriously stay silent about.

    The whole point of tabloids is to make shit up to sell papers and get views.

    Mainstream media just biases the way they report information and leave vital facts out.
     
  13. typeOnegative13NY

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    There were active shooter incident calls at atleast 5 other hotels. There are witnesses that say there were gunshots much closer than down the block and 32 floors up. There were police teams with rifles in those hotels and people herded to rooms to shelter. Yet not one interview with any of possibly thousands of hotel employees . Regardless of what you believe,a lot more happened that night and its not typical to have so little ,especially from the most surveilled city in the us. If the investigation is so wrapped up,and the narrative complete,why the lack of footage and accounts? Why did a judge have to order Mandalay to not destroy any further evidence.

    As far as people in the crowd,yes they definetly could have witness accounts. You don't have to be a gun enthusiast to knw the difference between shots 32 floors up and 2 football fields away and ones much closer.

    There still is no motive. It may be a matter of opinion,but someone does not do something like this just to do it. They want their reason to be known. And yes, mainstream media does exactly that,like leaving out what witnesses experienced. All over the strip. There are concert attendees that have said when they retrieved their phones from authorities they were wiped of footage.
     
  14. Greenday4537

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    You're going to have to provide evidence because I can only find links of multiple false reports of active shooters at other hotels.

    Where are these supposed witnesses? If they believe it so much, why aren't they coming forward to the media?

    What interviews do you want? What good would interviews from people who weren't directly involved in taking him down do?

    There's tons of footage and proof of a single shooter. The judge didn't "have" to. It's not like the casino was burning everything like a secret CIA base being overrun in the Middle East. Deleting old videos and such is standard after a certain time because it's a waste of space. And if there's nothing left to prove, why would they keep it? They won't benefit from it.

    There has yet to be audio that proves two shooters. All I hear is inconsistent fire from single guns.

    Just because we haven't figured out the motive doesn't mean there wasn't one.

    This is more annoying than the JFK conspiracy nutjobs.
     
  15. typeOnegative13NY

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    There is around 2 hours of police scanner audio easily available.... both before and after the shooting. It will confirm that they were led around vegas to multiple hotels for active shooters(nothing confirmed). You can find those on youtube. There are also witnesses who have made videos telling their story,claiming the media wont give them the time of day. Some have even been removed by youtube. Are we supposed to believe that they are just lying as the police and media fumble around with the "truth"? I will post them if you cant find them.

    Someone did a really good audio breakdown of the gunfire heard from the cab drivers car. Some of those shots were not from 32 floors up.

    What interviews would I want? How about the hotel employee that called the police(heard on the scanner) that was sheltering in place behind the desk because the shooter was "in the lobby" and she had to keep her voice down . Shit like that came from atleast 5 locations ...how about some interviews from the desk clerks and ems drivers that said they were under fire(heard on the scanner)...just atleast to tell us they were just playing and it didn't happen.

    I cant give you solid evidence of anything. Its theory,never said it wasn't. But what youre clinging to is more far out than the theories at this point. If youre willing to just live with it as is,because they said it happened that way. That's your right.

    You asked me to provide evidence. What evidence could I provide? I'm not an investigater. What evidence could you provide to the contrary? What you've heard on the news? If that's your evidence to call others nutjobs,then you have a lot to learn about The history of truth in the US Government.
     
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  16. Greenday4537

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    And yet no shootings occurred at any of those other places so what's the point? Claiming there's an active shooter in your lobby yet no one in the lobby is shot or video of a shooter or any proof whatsover than people making false calls.
     
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  17. typeOnegative13NY

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    Well,people made the calls. Some calls came from hotel employees. I cant tell you what the point of the calls were,just that they did happen. Whatever the truth may be,more went on that night than "reported". Like I said,if youre comfortable with the story,thats your right.
     
  18. Ralebird

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    Don't you understand that people were panicking? People who panic make outrageous claims in the belief they are telling the truth. Your claim of active shooter reports from multiple hotels would be of concern if there was a single piece of corroborating evidence - 99% of people on those scenes had cellphones but there is not a single audio or photographic record that any such thing took place. No blood, no broken glass, no bullet holes or shell casings. When morning came were workers boarding up windows up and down the strip or was that all done overnight without anyone seeing it occur? No, what we see, even from the Youtube postings of the alarmists, is groups of people crowding hotel lobbies and hallways sitting on floors and leaning against walls like people in utter boredom snowed in at an airport.

    If you believe that a cellphone video contains sufficient information to determine intensity and direction of gunshot sounds from within a car surrounded by echo-producing buildings you are exactly the type of guy the conspiracy theorists play to, and you're being played - big time.
     
  19. typeOnegative13NY

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    i do understand that, and I agree. If a desk clerk has people running in bloody and screaming shooter I'm sure they will call police. That's probably where most of those calls came from. I'm just saying that imo it all still doesn't add up. A lot of confusion that night and still very little revealed.
    You said that conspiracies play exactly to people like me, well that may be true but it could also be said that people who are bent on passing everything off as gospel could be played too.
     
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