Elijah McGuire

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by fansince90, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    Daryll Slater did a film breakdown of McGuire's run... fantastic blocking by the OL and a huge one from ASJ. But you are high out of your mind if you think "every RB" takes that to the house. He outruns a safety or LB (can't tell who it is) and then puts Barry Church in the dirt on the second level.

    I feel like I'm preaching to the choir here because most people understand it was a very good run by a rookie that's showing promise and it's a reason to be excited... but I just can't stop laughing at the fact someone thinks Matt Forte or "any RB" takes that to th ehouse.
     
    Red Menace likes this.
  2. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2008
    Messages:
    3,653
    Likes Received:
    2,880
    Nice breakdown. I think they should run the rest of the year with Powell and McGuire as a 1-2 punch. Let Forte come in to mix things up a bit, but we should be giving our younger guys most of the reps from now.
     
    ColoradoContrails likes this.
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    well its ancient history now because we haven't had an offensive line open a hole like that in awhile but we had a playoff game once where it happened.


    nice run.
    Idk about his "top speed" though, measured by instances where we was in the open field -
    divided by the "BS factor" aka.. "blinding sunlight" - square rooted by the number of players on the field, on one sunday in January, etc......

    but it was a pretty good run and an example of what you are asking.
     
  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    This isn't even remotely similar to McGuire's run and why people are (shamefully!) excited about the way he's performed so far.

    You see no difference between using your size to break a tackle and using quickness to avoid a tackle then juke the shit out of a safety?
     
  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    I know its not similar to McGuire's run. Its better. Greene was actually touched. What is your point?
     
  6. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    I think the better question is what is YOUR point? Other than trying to take a dump on people who are excited about a young player showing flashes of brilliance. If you just don't want people to be happy about anything the Jets are doing because YOU aren't, then say so... so we can all move on from this. You're the only one still hung up, I don't get it.

    And like a fool, I'll entertain the question... the point is that we haven't had an RB in well over a decade that can avoid a tackle and juke a safety then not get caught on a 65 yard TD run. On top of the fact he's already running strong and can catch the ball, there is a reason for optimism with him whether or not you want to see it.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    what is my point?? my point was simple and easy to understand, I thought.

    All I was doing was responding to another poster who asked me if I could remember a time a Jets running back got by a safety in the open field and was not caught for a touchdown. So I provided an example of a time that I remember off the top of my head. What is complicated about that?

    there was probably other examples I could've chose btw, its just easier to remember playoff games and not meaningless week 4 wins over another last place team (traditionally)
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    So you DON'T see the difference between using size and agility/speed?
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    huh??? where did I say I didn't? again, what is your point here
     
  10. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    You didn't say it, you're showing it. You compared the Greene run to McGuire's, unless you're just gonna throw up the strawman of "well he asked so I gave him an example" because they are two totally different types of runs. Thomas Jones, Greene, Ivory, they all could make those runs. McGuire showed something we haven't seen in a Jets RB since Leon Washington.

    Simply put: the point is that you saying "any RB could make that run" to diminish the play is foolish because you're wrong.
     
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    What?????? I don't follow, but that's okay...
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,523
    Likes Received:
    29,778
    anyway, do we know if Forte is going to be out this week as well? Also, has any of these beat reporters asked Bowles what will happen to the RB workload (McGuire, Powell, Forte) when Forte does return?
     
  13. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Messages:
    14,203
    Likes Received:
    10,165
    we all know powell isn't that fast lol.
     
  14. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,142
    Likes Received:
    21,099
    I'm not wasting anymore time. Everyone else seems to understand it. The rest of us will just let it play out for you.
     
  15. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    12,871
    Likes Received:
    11,694
    Your point seems to shift on a page by page basis.

    Right at the start it was "put the brakes" on our excitement and you also give him and Anderson a bit of a digging about 1 fumble (punched out of his hand, harsh) and weekly drops.

    Then the disagreement has ranged from hole creation to speed to any RB taking it to the house including Forte (who couldn't have taken that 65 yards if he borrowed a mates superbike) to well you know the rest and it ends with this line

    I would say the other poster is really replying to you in the fullness of the whole thread and all your posts not just why you put a clip up.

    Right through the thread you have given no credit to a young kid starting his career and have been called out on it by numerous posters, one person liked your initial scathing comment but he never bothered his ass to come in and say why he also wasn't a little excited by a prospect.

    Ah well as you say we will see what will happen when Forte suits up again, if Bowles then chooses him over Powell and Mcguire then he is a blithering idiot frankly.
     
  16. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    27,721
    Likes Received:
    31,388
    Didn't practice but no players have been ruled out yet.
    And no reporter would ask a question like that. That's intuitive and relevant,
    Cimini and Mehta are trying to figure out how to rehash tebow and the butt fumble into their next "article" and the rest aren't sure whether to continue the tank angle or feed the optimism.
     
  17. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    I almost hate to say it for fear that I'll be thought to saying that our offense is good enough and we don't desperately need to upgrade it in the draft/FA seasons (particularly QB), BUT...if they play Powell and McGuire, and let the QB (McCown for now, but hopefully soon Petty) supplement their effort, we might have a fairly decent attack. My only concern about McGuire is his size and can he hold up and not get hurt, but Bowles has to let him play and bank on the fact that he can avoid those issues - the kid is too good to sit.
     
    Red Menace likes this.
  18. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2014
    Messages:
    6,681
    Likes Received:
    4,138
    Lmao. They'd be the last one's to jump on board with anything positive, while hoping something goes wrong til the bitter end. Usually when something good happens a report will eventually come out but it will take time for momentum to pick while most of these jerkoffs haven't a clue until it becomes popular opinion. Cimini then acknowledges it reluctantly but typically with a sarcastic jab snuck in anyway like the shifty eyed sneak he is.
     
  19. NY Jets68

    NY Jets68 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    6,241
    Likes Received:
    3,493
    That run doesn't happen if Cromartie, for some inexplicable reason, totally pussied out of hitting Greene coming through the hole.
     
  20. fansince90

    fansince90 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Messages:
    958
    Likes Received:
    357
    Hitting can hurt! Lol...do you like pain?

    Why do you think some players go so low when they tackle? Have you ever hit someone bigger and stronger than you running 15/20 miles per hour straight on?
    If you find that sweet spot like a homerun hitter does, the impact feels minimal...but lol!!! If u dont!!!!! The rest of your day/week/ or career can be jammed up!!!

    Lol! He made an executive decision...he knew he had all those mouths to feed...give Cro a break.
     

Share This Page