I wasn't attacking you or anything it just sounded like an assumption on your part and I didn't know if you knew otherwise. I am skeptical of all the conspiracy theories though. Mainly because I don't see what is so far fetched about some asshole going on a shooting spree. Happens quite a bit in this country. Why does he have to be working on behalf of some shadowy group and yet every other time we take authorities word for it? Because he's old and rich? that tells me he's less likely to be working for some group. not too many rich, white, retirees signing up to be ISIS soldiers...
600 rounds a minute is the average of an automatic assault weapon, he shot for 9 minutes. Do the math and then tell me if you don't think one man could have done this. The victims were caged in like cattle in a pen, the victims didn't even know they were being shot at until people started dropping. Some thought it was fireworks, others thought it was speakers going bad and malfunctioning. One sick well prepared man could have done this. The guy was not reloading a gun, he was simply switching out guns or moving from one gun to the next one he had set up ready to go.
I know you weren't. It doesn't have to be, it just could be. It all doesn't add up to me. His ability to do this, and also stories from the ground that have been scrubbed from the internet. Stories that were being told while the media was still trying to link him to isis.
You can lie when you book a room and tell them you have a spouse or girlfriend so as to not make yourself standout.
I know you weren't. It doesn't have to be, it just could be. It all doesn't add up to me. His ability to do this, and also stories from the ground that have been scrubbed from the internet. Stories that were being told while the media was still trying to link him to isis.
Well, he didn't really have to aim. Like I said before, he could have used just the iron sights on his rifles and hit pretty much every shot. It's not like he was trying to hit a paper target or a steel plate from that range (300-400 yards). There was a huge crowd of people densely packed. As long as his bullets were flying in the right direction, they were hitting someone. They said he did like 12 bursts. One of the rifles shown in the pictures posted earlier had a 100-round magazine attached to it. I am not sure what you meant by "no range is going to let you use those." An AR-15 with a bump stock or just an AR-15? There are ranges that allow full automatics and one can shoot a regular AR-15 at pretty much any range. He had 47 firearms and I am fairly certain he'd shot them plenty of times before. I mean I don't know anyone with many guns (not that many) who doesn't shoot regularly.
True and fair enough. I still have an eyebrow raised and some of the testimonies ... such as the couple thrown out for telling people they were all going to die, the videos showing flashes from lower floor and the police scanners.
That can be as well, check in time for most hotels are 3:00 pm. Checkout is usually 11:00, gives cleaning crew time to get it ready for next occupants. I'm going to wait till investigators finish everything and then listen to report when it comes out. im sure they will clean up all the apparent misinformation.
The initial report that there was someone telling people they were going to die remains a mystery. They completely stopped talking about it. As for the flashes, it's Las Vegas, there are lights everywhere. It could have been anything.
True , but in the multiple videos I've seen, you hear the gunfire, see the flashes on the lower floor and nothing. From the corner area above where he supposedly was.
It's not about expecting someone crying like a baby but someone that doesn't blame the victims or incite one side against the other. When you have millions of people in a life and death situation, like in Puerto Rico, you don't say, "I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack". I can see it now. "We're doing what we can. This is a city, big city, surrounded by sand, big sand, desert sand."
I never had the hotel ask me how many people were dining so the 2 guests could have been based on being a 2 room suite. Or he could have had a guest at the time that had nothing to do with what happened days later, he was a frequent visitor, he may have friends or acquaintances there. If there were 2 people involved why did one leave before? Do you really think the police would just say, only one guy involved, and let the other guy just take off to commit more carnage?
You don't know how often he went shooting, he may have went often. Why wouldn't a range let him use completely legal weapons and what would stop him from going to shoot in the desert? Converted auto weapons? He had a conversion that costs under $100 and could have asked the gun shop he bought from to install it if he couldn't. Edit: Also need to keep in mind that a good portion of the 600 injured could have been injured from being stampeded. I wouldn't even put it out of the realm of possibility that a few of the deaths could have been caused by that.
My ignorance on the stock. I didn't know there was anything legally that could make a gun fire like that. And yeah, there were also injuries from jumping fences etc. still strange to me, but anything is possible at this point.
I posted video of a gun with a bump fire earlier in the thread, seems pretty close to firing like full auto. You lose a little accuracy but that was not an issue with the crowd he was firing into. Bump fire You wouldn't think people stampeding would cause so much damage but just a small group in India caused 22 deaths a week or so back. Different country and circumstances but people thought the footbridge was collapsing and started running.
Another thing I find strange... I've ready interviews with the girlfriends family. You would think the girlfriend would have said to them, yeah I saw this coming even in some simple way. I know they are talking with her today, but if she didn't see any of this coming?... someone planning something like this would have at least had some kind of attitude change noticeable to the person living with you . And 33 guns in a year coming into your home? Really curious to see what she has to say
