Exactly. There isn't a thing wrong with getting the team playing better overall and then giving Petty a better situation to play in. Petty has been with them going on three years and it's safe to say they have a better idea of what he is and how to handle him than some disgruntled fans. Believe it or not, lol.
Who needs confidence when you can have the #1 overall pick? Obviously, look at all those other teams in NFL history who sucked, then got a QB the #1 pick and built a dynasty around that guy! Like Elway and Eli---I mean, the Broncos and the Giants traded for those guys, so they didn't really earn that #1... Like Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw. That's it. Literally, they are the only two #1 pick QBs who won multiple Super Bowls for the team that sucked it up and earned the #1 pick. Payton Manning won 1 for the Colts, so that's something, not a dynasty, but something. His Broncos win doesn't help the Colts any. Jim Plunkett, like Elway and Eli has multiple rings, but none for the Patriots who picked him. Does Namath count? He wasn't the #1 pick in the NFL draft, only the AFL draft, but he did go to the team that picked him #1 overall, and he did win a ring, and this is a Jets' forum, so we'll say he counts--but still only for one SB, not a dynasty. Am I missing something? Why are Jets fans so very sure that a #1 pick QB is going to turn this ship around when there is simply no evidence to support it. In all the decades of Pro Football, somewhere between 2 and 7 guys were picked #1 overall and turned out to be true dynasty cornerstone FQBs. I'm inclined to say that only 2 (Aikman and Bradshaw) lived up to what the posters who are desperate for that #1 pick are expecting. You can disagree and say that all 7 did. Okay, that's fine, but it comes with this historical caveat: you don't need to earn the #1 pick overall, you can trade for it, or trade for the guy after. Personally, I'm inclined to support trying to build a winning culture by trying like hell to win football games, not by trying to play the lottery. Confidence only makes your team better. I'll take a confident young core of players over the #1 pick (even the #1 pick in every round) any day.
Very nicely said. A dynasty is build with a strong foundation, commitment to give it all, and a winning culture across all positions. Only then a FQB can convert a good team into a perennial contender. How much better can Petty and or Hack or TBD be with that support versus a quick sand foundation of underperformers just to win the illusive lottery.
Still, at some point the Jets need to use this season as an opportunity to see what the young cats can do.
You are sorely mistaken. Tanking for that #1 overall is always the right step for a successful rebuilding. If you draft a bust - so what. Your team sucked anyway, so tank again. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Well ... there's this guy named Brady who did some good things in New England. Another guy named Montana had a decent career in the NFL. There's another guy named Kurt Warner who just made the Hall of Fame ... but we probably shouldn't count him because he wasn't even drafted. Neither was Tony Romo. Other than those four, some other pretty good QB's come immediately to mind ... Boomer Esiason and Rich Gannon won MVP's. Russell Wilson already has a ring. We'd probably be pretty happy with Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins or Andy Dalton. On the other hand, we drafted Mark Sanchez with the 5th pick.
I think McCown is the perfect QB for this team for some reason. I can't explain it. He's not really supposed to be. But somehow he just.... works. Keeps the ball..... can make the deep pass. That's about it. As long as he gets his routes timed correctly, you know what your are getting (which is nothing flashy.) By mid-season the choice to try out Petty or Hack-in-suck could be hard.
Actually ... I mentioned Romo. Not even drafted and you would take him in a second. The guy I did forget was Derek Carr ... drafted at #36. As opposed to his brother who was drafted #1 overall. Who was the better pick? EDIT --- Wait a minute ... are you "pro-tank" or anit-tank"?
I agree. It was close but I think it was a backwards pass so it wouldn't matter if it hit the ground.
Cleveland could be a trap game. Or at least has all the signs or a trap game scenario. Road game. Coming off a huge win vs. Jacksonville combined with a big time matchup against N.E right after Cleveland. We'll learn a lot about Bowles and how our team responds to his coaching come Sunday @ Cleveland. Would be a great sign to see a focused Jets team from start to finish @ Cleveland. Can't take them lightly. With that said a win and we'll improve to 3-2 overall and all of a sudden (out of nowhere) our matchup with N.E will have lots of implication and like it or not; playing for a chance of going 4-2.
Yep.. and who were the QB Blind idiots that actually traded UP for Sanchez? Point being, it doesn't matter where you draft if you don't know what the hell you're doing. That's why I'm no longer pro-tank. These guys would screw it up anyway so they're better off not having the opportunity. Let them continue to draft between 6-10th or better yet, trade down. Just do college QBs a favor and don't draft them anymore.. BPA-D anyone?
